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RockyBalboa · 02-12-2007, 07:33 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/12/D8N8CB980.html

What say you?

How much credit does Pres. Bush deserve for this?

MikeWaters · 02-12-2007, 07:33 PM

about as much credit as Clinton for his deal, at this point.

YOhio · 02-12-2007, 07:53 PM

He deserves credit for forcing multi-lateral negotiations. If the results end in a disarmament similar to Libya, then it will deserve tremendous kudos.

RockyBalboa · 02-13-2007, 09:21 PM

hmm....interesting...nothing but the sound of chirping crickets from the Bush bashers.

*note* I'm not a huge GW fan myself.

UtahDan · 02-13-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

about as much credit as Clinton for his deal, at this point.

And like Clinton, we will likely find at some subsequent point that Tatoo once accepted the goodies and continued to build his asenal. Why would he do otherwise based on his experience with us?

Detroitdad · 02-14-2007, 01:26 AM

Kudos up to the point of delivery. Which is the same as what Mike said. This may not classify as good news, but I am not sure that anything the North Koreans sign is worth the paper it is printed on, as Clinton and the boys find. So, for now, approval. Hopefully a permanent thumbs up down the road.

UtahDan · 02-14-2007, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by UtahDan

And like Clinton, we will likely find at some subsequent point that Tatoo once accepted the goodies and continued to build his asenal. Why would he do otherwise based on his experience with us?

In other news, Vladimir Putin annouced today that having killed all of his political ememies that he agrees not to kill any more of his political ememies.

(In the very finest tradition of replying to ones self on this board.)

il Padrino Ute · 02-14-2007, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by UtahDan

In other news, Vladimir Putin annouced today that having killed all of his political ememies that he agrees not to kill any more of his political ememies.

(In the very finest tradition of replying to ones self on this board.)

That was a good one; but did Putin have his fingers crossed when he said that?

8ballrollin · 02-14-2007, 02:32 AM

John Bolton, NRO and the AEI folks all hate it.

But they all thought democracy would be easy to install in modern-day Babylon, so what the hell do they know?

"It will be interesting to see if this deal lasts any longer than the 2005 agreement; or does as much damage as the 1994 framework. Regardless, we have already been bested. Our failure to follow up on the momentum we acquired in the wake of the North Korean nuclear test was a strategic blunder. We have lost sight of the fact that the only way substantive and permanent change will come to the Korean peninsula is with the end of Kim Jong Il’s regime. Any agreement we reach with Pyongyang only serves to push that date further into the future..."

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...NkOTY0YTlkOTQ=

Detroitdad · 02-14-2007, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

John Bolton, NRO and the AEI folks all hate it.

But they all thought democracy would be easy to install in modern-day Babylon, so what the hell do they know?

"It will be interesting to see if this deal lasts any longer than the 2005 agreement; or does as much damage as the 1994 framework. Regardless, we have already been bested. Our failure to follow up on the momentum we acquired in the wake of the North Korean nuclear test was a strategic blunder. We have lost sight of the fact that the only way substantive and permanent change will come to the Korean peninsula is with the end of Kim Jong Il’s regime. Any agreement we reach with Pyongyang only serves to push that date further into the future..."

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...NkOTY0YTlkOTQ=

How do we achieve the end of that regime without a massive humanitarian crisis?

02-12-2007, 07:33 PM	#1
RockyBalboa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 7,297	North Korean Nuke deal http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/12/D8N8CB980.html What say you? How much credit does Pres. Bush deserve for this? __________________ Masquerading as Cougarguards very own genius dumbass since 05'.

02-13-2007, 09:21 PM	#4
RockyBalboa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 7,297	hmm....interesting...nothing but the sound of chirping crickets from the Bush bashers. note I'm not a huge GW fan myself. __________________ Masquerading as Cougarguards very own genius dumbass since 05'.

02-12-2007, 07:33 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	about as much credit as Clinton for his deal, at this point.

02-12-2007, 07:53 PM	#3
YOhio AKA SeattleNewt Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,055	He deserves credit for forcing multi-lateral negotiations. If the results end in a disarmament similar to Libya, then it will deserve tremendous kudos.

02-14-2007, 01:26 AM	#6
Detroitdad Resident Jackass Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Roswell, New Mexico Posts: 1,846	Kudos up to the point of delivery. Which is the same as what Mike said. This may not classify as good news, but I am not sure that anything the North Koreans sign is worth the paper it is printed on, as Clinton and the boys find. So, for now, approval. Hopefully a permanent thumbs up down the road.

02-14-2007, 02:32 AM	#9
8ballrollin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: WA Posts: 1,287	John Bolton, NRO and the AEI folks all hate it. But they all thought democracy would be easy to install in modern-day Babylon, so what the hell do they know? "It will be interesting to see if this deal lasts any longer than the 2005 agreement; or does as much damage as the 1994 framework. Regardless, we have already been bested. Our failure to follow up on the momentum we acquired in the wake of the North Korean nuclear test was a strategic blunder. We have lost sight of the fact that the only way substantive and permanent change will come to the Korean peninsula is with the end of Kim Jong Il’s regime. Any agreement we reach with Pyongyang only serves to push that date further into the future..." http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...NkOTY0YTlkOTQ=