This is incredibly disappointing and discouraging

[Cali Coug]

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/12/D8KN6GSO0.html

He is exactly the kind of person the Democrats need right now. He would have been fantastic and, if not nominated, at least could have helped form the debate. My optimism that the Democrats will field a great candidate has just waned a bit.

This really is a shame.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by hoyacoug

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/12/D8KN6GSO0.html

He is exactly the kind of person the Democrats need right now. He would have been fantastic and, if not nominated, at least could have helped form the debate. My optimism that the Democrats will field a great candidate has just waned a bit.

This really is a shame.

He seems like a good guy. It is perhaops a further example of why the type of people we would like to be in charge aren't.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by creekster

He seems like a good guy. It is perhaops a further example of why the type of people we would like to be in charge aren't.

No question the media scrutiny is intense (remember the "outrage" over Bush I not liking spinach?).

It is too bad. I think he is exactly what the party and country needed in 2008. Colin Powell is another person who opted out for similar reasons but could have been a great leader.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by hoyacoug

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/12/D8KN6GSO0.html

He is exactly the kind of person the Democrats need right now. He would have been fantastic and, if not nominated, at least could have helped form the debate. My optimism that the Democrats will field a great candidate has just waned a bit.

This really is a shame.

What shoe is about to drop, I wonder.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

What shoe is about to drop, I wonder.

What a cynic!

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

What shoe is about to drop, I wonder.

LOL. I thought the same thing. I like Governor Warner. He's a baller too. He hooped it up at the YMCA in Spotsylvania when it opened.

[Detroitdad]

There goes the guy that would have been easiest to elect from the Democrats, and the best demonstration of what the Democratic party ought to be. (that is unless that shoe that UD is waiting to drop, drops, then I will disavow all knowledge of this post)

This is a horrible, black development for the Democratic party and the United States.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by hoyacoug

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/12/D8KN6GSO0.html

He is exactly the kind of person the Democrats need right now. He would have been fantastic and, if not nominated, at least could have helped form the debate. My optimism that the Democrats will field a great candidate has just waned a bit.

This really is a shame.

IMO, this it the Democrat Party's biggest problem right now. The people that would actually be good don't want to run. That's why they're left with people like Mrs. Clinton.

I wonder if a part of the reason that Warner decided to not run is that the fringe Demos are the most vocal and don't seem interested in having a guy like Warner run for office. They seem to only be interested in supporting those as far to the left as they are. Look what they did to Lieberman. Warner may have felt that he might get the same treatment.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

IMO, this it the Democrat Party's biggest problem right now. The people that would actually be good don't want to run. That's why they're left with people like Mrs. Clinton.

I wonder if a part of the reason that Warner decided to not run is that the fringe Demos are the most vocal and don't seem interested in having a guy like Warner run for office. They seem to only be interested in supporting those as far to the left as they are. Look what they did to Lieberman. Warner may have felt that he might get the same treatment.

Why do people keep saying, "look at what they did to Lieberman?" The voters in the primary in Connecticut voted for someone else. That isn't shocking given his cozying up to Bush. Warner is not the same as Lieberman. He is moderate, but not nearly the war hawk Lieberman is. He would have done quite well in the primary, I think. I was hoping for another Clinton-style campaign.

Fringe people in both parties are the most vocal, and neither are interested in having a moderate run for president. Republicans are no exception (which is why neither McCain nor Giuliani will be nominated). I don't think the fringe of either party represents what most of America wants, but they can control what America gets because most Americans won't participate in the primary process. We have only ourselves to blame. We have surrendered control of the most significant part of the election.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by hoyacoug

Why do people keep saying, "look at what they did to Lieberman?" The voters in the primary in Connecticut voted for someone else. That isn't shocking given his cozying up to Bush. Warner is not the same as Lieberman. He is moderate, but not nearly the war hawk Lieberman is. He would have done quite well in the primary, I think. I was hoping for another Clinton-style campaign.

Fringe people in both parties are the most vocal, and neither are interested in having a moderate run for president. Republicans are no exception (which is why neither McCain nor Giuliani will be nominated). I don't think the fringe of either party represents what most of America wants, but they can control what America gets because most Americans won't participate in the primary process. We have only ourselves to blame. We have surrendered control of the most significant part of the election.

I am not convinced that the Democrat party is capable of nominating a centrist. We will see.