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MikeWaters · 05-15-2009, 05:27 PM

It's hard to imagine the Boy Scouts of America, er, I mean the CIA, ever lying to protect itself.

The CIA has no written documentation of the Pelosi meeting(s) to indicate she was told about waterboarding being conducted.

Now this Gingrich thing is over the top. In a decent country, Gingrich would have been taken into the street, blindfolded, and shot. Must we really suffer through listening to him in the future, now that he is a rehabilitated Catholic?

That man is despicable.

il Padrino Ute · 05-15-2009, 05:31 PM

So, do you believe Pelosi?

MikeWaters · 05-15-2009, 05:37 PM

I have no reason to believe one over the other.

But it's clear most Republicans believe the CIA. Why? Because it is politically expedient.

A funny thing happens when you are interested in truth over expediency--you don't end up on the same side every single freaking time.

il Padrino Ute · 05-15-2009, 05:42 PM

According to this there was a report issued mentions Pelosi was informed about enhanced interrogation. It points out that there were "dozens of other meetings with members of Congress -- though not with Pelosi present -- where the use of waterboarding and other interrogation techniques was described."

My question would be, where the hell was she? As Speaker, she should have been to those meetings, no?

Gingrich is correct. She's either lying or incompetent.

il Padrino Ute · 05-15-2009, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I have no reason to believe one over the other.

But it's clear most Republicans believe the CIA. Why? Because it is politically expedient.

A funny thing happens when you are interested in truth over expediency--you don't end up on the same side every single freaking time.

Of course most Republicans believe the CIA. I'm guessing that most Democrats believe Pelosi. It's all about politics.

I freely admit that I believe the CIA, because I think Pelosi and her ilk are bad for the country.

Cali Coug · 05-15-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Of course most Republicans believe the CIA. I'm guessing that most Democrats believe Pelosi. It's all about politics.

I freely admit that I believe the CIA, because I think Pelosi and her ilk are bad for the country.

I would guess you are totally wrong about Democrats. I, and those I know, have no problem whatsoever in demanding her resignation if it turns out she actually enabled torture to occur. I don't know if she did enable torture to occur, but I am most interested in finding out.

As for "briefings" where waterboarding techniques were described, I don't know what that means. The public has known the government was waterboarding for a long time now. I would assume the Congress also knew, since they only had to read a paper to find out. A briefing describing waterboarding isn't relevant to me. I want to know if they approved the technique behind closed doors.

05-15-2009, 05:27 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	CIA and Pelosi It's hard to imagine the Boy Scouts of America, er, I mean the CIA, ever lying to protect itself. The CIA has no written documentation of the Pelosi meeting(s) to indicate she was told about waterboarding being conducted. Now this Gingrich thing is over the top. In a decent country, Gingrich would have been taken into the street, blindfolded, and shot. Must we really suffer through listening to him in the future, now that he is a rehabilitated Catholic? That man is despicable.

05-15-2009, 05:31 PM	#2
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	So, do you believe Pelosi? __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

05-15-2009, 05:42 PM	#4
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	According to this there was a report issued mentions Pelosi was informed about enhanced interrogation. It points out that there were "dozens of other meetings with members of Congress -- though not with Pelosi present -- where the use of waterboarding and other interrogation techniques was described." My question would be, where the hell was she? As Speaker, she should have been to those meetings, no? Gingrich is correct. She's either lying or incompetent. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

05-15-2009, 05:37 PM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I have no reason to believe one over the other. But it's clear most Republicans believe the CIA. Why? Because it is politically expedient. A funny thing happens when you are interested in truth over expediency--you don't end up on the same side every single freaking time.