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12-24-2008, 12:48 AM | #1 |
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Utahn POS killing random Texans
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12-24-2008, 12:58 AM | #2 |
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Wow I just drove on that exact spot of the 635 on the afternoon of Oct 27.
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12-24-2008, 04:50 AM | #3 |
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yup, he is LDS.
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_11295838?source=rv Nothing like armed robbery, murder, and suicide to ensure your heavenly reward. Frankly, it kind of ticks me off that people are so ready to justify all of this based on depression and substance abuse. Excuse me, plenty of depressed people with substance abuse problems don't go around murdering people on the freeway. |
12-24-2008, 06:11 AM | #4 | |
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But I'm more irritated that the Trib sees the need to point out his religion. I'm not surprised, as ther Trib loves to do that, but it never mentins the religious affiliation of those who commit crimes that are not LDS.
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12-24-2008, 02:51 PM | #5 | |
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Ok, so did he steal another vehicle? Not likely. If so, the police would have already told us that to explain why the vehicle descriptions don't match, plus there probably would have been a report of a hijacked or stolen vehicle in the area, which there is not. maybe the witnesses were wrong about the vehicle. I guess it's possible, but odd considering the detailed description. The police for several hours thought they were unrelated incidents. Finally, the ballistics tests. Ok, they have already admitted the tests can only link him to one of the shootings, and that is only based on preliminary results. I'm no expert, but someone who knows more about the topic than I do basically told me preliminary ballistics tests aren't conclusive and "aren't worth much," in his words. Plus, the prelimary tests only seem to show a link to one one of the four incidents. I'm not saying he isn't the same guy. But it has not been proven. I tend to be a little suspicious of the Dallas police. I live here. They don't exactly have a stellar reputation for honesty sometimes (ie., the planted fake drugs scandal of a few years ago), and they have every motivation to link the two incidents for obvious reasons. Who wants to know that there might still be a killer on the loose? I'm waiting for the full ballistics results before drawing any conclusions. And on the radio this morning the police were quoted as saying they are "confident" it's the same guy. Really? That to me sounds like PR speak for "we can't prove it, but we're trying to." By all accounts, this was not the same type of person who randomly shot people at Virginia Tech or who typically commit this type of crime. That guy was a loner who basically had no relationships with anyone. This was a normal guy who was described by everyone who knew him, coworkers, neighbors, etc., as a model citizen and family man until about three years ago when he started to screw up his life with drugs after getting addicted to pain killers. I can see someone like that stealing to get drugs and then killing himself. It seems to me like another step to just out of the blue start shooting people. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but it's still possible the two events are unrelated. Last edited by BlueK; 12-24-2008 at 03:09 PM. |
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12-24-2008, 03:22 PM | #6 |
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According to this article, there is one person who said they saw a tan F150, but another who said it was a black SUV.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.83b862a.html It doesn't sound like a case of multiple witnesses pointing to a tan F150. I'm not sure what "preliminary" ballistics reports are worth. |
12-24-2008, 03:43 PM | #7 | |
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12-24-2008, 03:50 PM | #8 |
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it's possible that the ballistics connection is no more than same caliber, same ammo manufacturer?
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