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mpfunk · 08-26-2008, 03:46 PM

Which period of John Coltrane's career do you think is best.

mpfunk · 08-26-2008, 03:51 PM

This one was a really tough call for me. I originally thought I would go with his free jazz, but then I remembered how damn good his live stuff was during the Impulse records period. While Ascensions is my favorite album that Trane ever put out, I believe there is more quality stuff when he was in the middle between free jazz and more traditional jazz.

Of course had Trane not died when he did his free jazz period would certainly have been the best.

landpoke · 08-26-2008, 04:25 PM

Who's Coltrane again? Was he the guy in Kenny G's band that passed?

il Padrino Ute · 08-26-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by landpoke

Who's Coltrane again? Was he the guy in Kenny G's band that passed?

He's the guy they named malt liquor after, mostly because a lot of his work ended up on 45rpm singles.

FarrahWaters · 08-26-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mpfunk

This one was a really tough call for me. I originally thought I would go with his free jazz, but then I remembered how damn good his live stuff was during the Impulse records period. While Ascensions is my favorite album that Trane ever put out, I believe there is more quality stuff when he was in the middle between free jazz and more traditional jazz.

Of course had Trane not died when he did his free jazz period would certainly have been the best.

A Love Supreme is my favorite, although I really like Blue Train also.

I have never heard Ascensions. The only free jazz that is actually memorable to me is a little of Ornette Coleman, and Weather Report (although I don't know if they classify as free jazz). Free jazz (in my limited experience) seems to be something that is more satisfying to the performer, rather than the audience. I guess that I can intellectually appreciate it, but have yet to hear anything that blows me away. I will give Ascenions a listen.

btw, one thing that I like about A Love Supreme and the other Impulse recordings is that I think they are heading towards the direction of free jazz, but keeping a little structure that makes them more accessible.

mpfunk · 08-27-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FarrahWaters

A Love Supreme is my favorite, although I really like Blue Train also.

I have never heard Ascensions. The only free jazz that is actually memorable to me is a little of Ornette Coleman, and Weather Report (although I don't know if they classify as free jazz). Free jazz (in my limited experience) seems to be something that is more satisfying to the performer, rather than the audience. I guess that I can intellectually appreciate it, but have yet to hear anything that blows me away. I will give Ascenions a listen.

btw, one thing that I like about A Love Supreme and the other Impulse recordings is that I think they are heading towards the direction of free jazz, but keeping a little structure that makes them more accessible.

I love Ascensions but wouldn't necessarily suggest it unless you are into free jazz. I also think that you are more likely to enjoy Trane's Interstellar Space if you are not as much into free jazz. It is a lot simpler than Ascensions and makes it a lot easier to listen to. It is just Trane and a drummer. I think a really good one to listen to as a starter is Pharoah Sanders, the Creator has a Master Plan. I also am very partial to a lot of Eric Dolphy.

The more I think about it though, the less of a close call it is between the free jazz and Impulse recordings.

View Poll Results: Early of late Coltrane
Blue Note/Prestige period (Blue Trane, Soultrane)	2	25.00%
Alantic period (Giant Steps, The Avante-Garde, My Favorite Things)	2	25.00%
Impulse period (Live at the Village Vanguard, A Love Supreme)	2	25.00%
Free Jazz (Ascensions, Interstellar Space)	1	12.50%
I do not enjoy John Coltrane	1	12.50%
Voters: 8. You may not vote on this poll

08-26-2008, 03:46 PM	#1
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08-26-2008, 03:51 PM	#2
mpfunk Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,619	This one was a really tough call for me. I originally thought I would go with his free jazz, but then I remembered how damn good his live stuff was during the Impulse records period. While Ascensions is my favorite album that Trane ever put out, I believe there is more quality stuff when he was in the middle between free jazz and more traditional jazz. Of course had Trane not died when he did his free jazz period would certainly have been the best.