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View Poll Results: In Your Opinion, What was the Primary Reason why Joseph Smith was Killed?
He practiced polygamy. 4 20.00%
He aspired to establish a theoracy with him at the head. 3 15.00%
He was a true prophet killed for his testimony of the truth. 4 20.00%
Lingering animosity from the troubles in Missouri. 1 5.00%
The strength of the Nauvoo militia grew too strong. 0 0%
He corrupted Masonic practices. 1 5.00%
His control of the Mormon vote in Illinois politics threatened political stability. 3 15.00%
Other (specify) 4 20.00%
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:36 AM   #1
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Default In Your Opinion, What was the Primary Reason why Joseph Smith was Killed?

I'm curious to know the opinions of the group. After reading RSR, Origins of Power, and NMKMH, I'm still not sure there is a clear reason why he was killed. I purposely used the term "primary" in the title of this post and have purposely not included a "it's a combination of factors" choice in the poll.

I figure this poll is appropriate given that tomorrow is the anniversary.
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:40 AM   #2
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I haven't read the coroner's report, but I suppose it was due to bullets striking his body and him striking the ground.
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I haven't read the coroner's report, but I suppose it was due to bullets striking his body and him striking the ground.
There are eyewitness accounts stating that after he fell through the window, they propped his body up, shot him a few more times, and ran him through with bayonets.
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It is almost always stated that the primary reason for Joseph Smith's murder was his direct order to destroy the printing press of the Nauvoo Expositor, shortly after that newspaper had printed some very damaging information regarding Josesph Smith and polygamy. The Nauvoo Expositor printed only one edition of the paper before it was destroyed. Joseph Smith feared that the damaging articles in the paper would turn some of the saints against him and he ordered that the printing press be destroyed (it was technically decided by the city council, but it's clear that Joseph Smith was behind the order).

Back in those days, freedom of press was a big deal and whenever that freedom was violated, it was taken very seriously.

Once Joseph Smith was in jail, the governor came down to Carthage to calm things down, but as soon as the governor left, there was nothing to stop the mob (and the governor knew that his departure would result in Joseph Smith's death).

I'm summarizing in very broad strokes and I'm sure that many of the scholars on this board can fill in many of my missing pieces.
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You should have allowed for multiple selections.
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A number of factors, and some J.S. fault, but overall, it's his testimony of the truth. The devil stirred up the hearts of men in hatred towards him.

I know that's a little quaint and naive for this board. :-)
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It is almost always stated that the primary reason for Joseph Smith's murder was his direct order to destroy the printing press of the Nauvoo Expositor, shortly after that newspaper had printed some very damaging information regarding Josesph Smith and polygamy. The Nauvoo Expositor printed only one edition of the paper before it was destroyed. Joseph Smith feared that the damaging articles in the paper would turn some of the saints against him and he ordered that the printing press be destroyed (it was technically decided by the city council, but it's clear that Joseph Smith was behind the order).

Back in those days, freedom of press was a big deal and whenever that freedom was violated, it was taken very seriously.

Once Joseph Smith was in jail, the governor came down to Carthage to calm things down, but as soon as the governor left, there was nothing to stop the mob (and the governor knew that his departure would result in Joseph Smith's death).

I'm summarizing in very broad strokes and I'm sure that many of the scholars on this board can fill in many of my missing pieces.
One of the things that really struck me while reading RSR, Origins of Power, and NMKNH is the so-called "frontier mentality" that existed in Missouri and Illinois at that time. By frontier-mentality, I mean a very strong sense and often violent means of protecting ones own interests. I do not believe such a mentality exists in modern middle-class America.

El Paso -- I recognize that your opinion is just as valid as mine given that we truly don't know the driving motivation behind the Carthage Greys, but I have a hard time believing that the destruction of the printing press was the primary reason for his murder. I know that it's often portrayed as the leading factor, but I don't think that much violence would be carried out for that act. I believe that there were bigger forces at play.
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A number of factors, and some J.S. fault, but overall, it's his testimony of the truth. The devil stirred up the hearts of men in hatred towards him.

I know that's a little quaint and naive for this board. :-)
Although I don't personally believe that JS was the prophet he claimed to be, I appreciate the historical fact that JS truly did sacrifice himself in order to protect Nauvoo and the people living there. Both RSR and NMKMH recite historical evidence suggesting that mobs/militias were prepared to attack Nauvoo if JS didn't voluntarily surrender. Both books acknowledge that if JS had hidden or run away, Nauvoo would have likely been destroyed.

Despite all his faults, he was loyal to his followers. To her credit, Fawn Brodie emphasizes this quality.
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One of the things that really struck me while reading RSR, Origins of Power, and NMKNH is the so-called "frontier mentality" that existed in Missouri and Illinois at that time. By frontier-mentality, I mean a very strong sense and often violent means of protecting ones own interests. I do not believe such a mentality exists in modern middle-class America.

El Paso -- I recognize that your opinion is just as valid as mine given that we truly don't know the driving motivation behind the Carthage Greys, but I have a hard time believing that the destruction of the printing press was the primary reason for his murder. I know that it's often portrayed as the leading factor, but I don't think that much violence would be carried out for that act. I believe that there were bigger forces at play.
I agree--I think the destruction of the printing press was clearly the reason for his arrest, but probably not the leading cause of his murder.
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I've heard and I have nothing to back this up that Joseph married the wife of a local Mason and between that and taking part of the ceremony and using it in the temple he was killed by Masons.
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