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MikeWaters · 01-29-2008, 10:17 PM

poll

K-dog · 01-29-2008, 11:31 PM

The problem with this poll is that it couches half the positions relative to the NRA and the other half as independent. Wouldn't that encourage people to vote for some things based on their opinion of the NRA?

I want an M1 Garand

UtahDan · 01-30-2008, 12:31 AM

I voted for status quo, but I'm not sure what the NRA advocates that is different from the status quo. Can anyone provide that info (with support)?

MikeWaters · 01-30-2008, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by UtahDan

I voted for status quo, but I'm not sure what the NRA advocates that is different from the status quo. Can anyone provide that info (with support)?

lots of thing. that the 2nd amendment is an individual right (see suit in DC). More states allowing concealed carry. Castle laws.

http://www.nraila.org/

jay santos · 01-30-2008, 03:26 AM

I voted I would ban some guns available now and am pretty close but not quite to the stance that all guns save for hunting should be banned.

Venkman · 01-30-2008, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by K-dog

The problem with this poll is that it couches half the positions relative to the NRA and the other half as independent. Wouldn't that encourage people to vote for some things based on their opinion of the NRA?

I want an M1 Garand

My dad has one. They're fun.

Venkman · 01-30-2008, 04:50 AM

I'm NRA but I also used to be a member of Gun Owners of America, of which many members consider the NRA a bunch of sellouts. I'm not as hardcore as that anymore, but the second ammendment is pretty much a litmus test for me.

OrangeUte · 01-30-2008, 03:05 PM

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

My reading of this poorly drafted amendment is that a person's right to bear arms is a part of his/her participation in a well regulated militia. I think that the NRA and other similar groups take the phrase "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" out of its context and ignore that it is qualified by language regarding the necessity of a militia. However, I think that the right to keep and bear arms for hunting and defense of one's home/self has been sustained through implementation sufficient that I would only ban many weapons that are currently legal. However, I border on banning any weapon that has no hunting value.

MikeWaters · 01-30-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeUte

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

My reading of this poorly drafted amendment is that a person's right to bear arms is a part of his/her participation in a well regulated militia. I think that the NRA and other similar groups take the phrase "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" out of its context and ignore that it is qualified by language regarding the necessity of a militia. However, I think that the right to keep and bear arms for hunting and defense of one's home/self has been sustained through implementation sufficient that I would only ban many weapons that are currently legal. However, I border on banning any weapon that has no hunting value.

Who was the militia at the time the amendment was written? Ordinary citizens.

It's very clear what the amendment means, and you are wrong.

Archaea · 01-30-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeUte

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

My reading of this poorly drafted amendment is that a person's right to bear arms is a part of his/her participation in a well regulated militia. I think that the NRA and other similar groups take the phrase "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" out of its context and ignore that it is qualified by language regarding the necessity of a militia. However, I think that the right to keep and bear arms for hunting and defense of one's home/self has been sustained through implementation sufficient that I would only ban many weapons that are currently legal. However, I border on banning any weapon that has no hunting value.

Did you see I am Legend?

You can hunt almost anything.

View Poll Results: How do you feel about gun rights?
I generally favor the positions of the NRA	10	27.03%
I am pro-gun rights, but not as much as the NRA	6	16.22%
I favor the status quo	7	18.92%
I would ban some guns that are currently legal	10	27.03%
I would ban all guns with no "clear" hunting purpose (like handguns and semi-auto rifles)	4	10.81%
I think private gun ownership should be banned	0	0%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

01-29-2008, 10:17 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	How you do you feel about gun rights? poll

01-29-2008, 11:31 PM	#2
K-dog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 699	The problem with this poll is that it couches half the positions relative to the NRA and the other half as independent. Wouldn't that encourage people to vote for some things based on their opinion of the NRA? I want an M1 Garand __________________ He's down by the creek, walkin' on water. K-dog P.S. Grrrrrrrrr

01-30-2008, 12:31 AM	#3
UtahDan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Bluth Home Posts: 3,877	I voted for status quo, but I'm not sure what the NRA advocates that is different from the status quo. Can anyone provide that info (with support)? __________________ The Bible tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go. -Galileo

01-30-2008, 04:50 AM	#7
Venkman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South Jordan, UT Posts: 1,799	I'm NRA but I also used to be a member of Gun Owners of America, of which many members consider the NRA a bunch of sellouts. I'm not as hardcore as that anymore, but the second ammendment is pretty much a litmus test for me. __________________ WWPD?

01-30-2008, 03:26 AM	#5
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	I voted I would ban some guns available now and am pretty close but not quite to the stance that all guns save for hunting should be banned.

01-30-2008, 03:05 PM	#8
OrangeUte Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 748	"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." My reading of this poorly drafted amendment is that a person's right to bear arms is a part of his/her participation in a well regulated militia. I think that the NRA and other similar groups take the phrase "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" out of its context and ignore that it is qualified by language regarding the necessity of a militia. However, I think that the right to keep and bear arms for hunting and defense of one's home/self has been sustained through implementation sufficient that I would only ban many weapons that are currently legal. However, I border on banning any weapon that has no hunting value.