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Mindfulcoug · 07-17-2007, 11:48 AM

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/18727/carlton-pearson

Has it really taken him so much efforts and time to realise there is not such a thing as hell or heaven unless we make it ourselves????

YOhio · 07-17-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mindfulcoug

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/18727/carlton-pearson

Has it really taken him so much efforts and time to realise there is not such a thing as hell or heaven unless we make it ourselves????

That's an interesting article, thanks for posting. What is your personal belief on heaven and hell?

Indy Coug · 07-17-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mindfulcoug

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/18727/carlton-pearson

Has it really taken him so much efforts and time to realise there is not such a thing as hell or heaven unless we make it ourselves????

So you're saying that our works determine our fate?

aaronshaf · 07-17-2007, 01:35 PM

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Romans 2:6 He will render to each one according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8 but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek.

Are passages like these null and avoid? This along with Matthew 25 and Revelation 20 sure don't make it sound like hell is anything but real. Eternal punishment is contrasted with eternal life.

MikeWaters · 07-17-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronshaf

Are passages like these null and avoid? This along with Matthew 25 and Revelation 20 sure don't make it sound like hell is anything but real. Eternal punishment is contrasted with eternal life.

Don't bother Aaron. Mindful is neither Mormon nor Christian. Remember, your mission is directed to the Mormons. Focus.

BarbaraGordon · 07-17-2007, 01:47 PM

I have to disagree, mindful. There very much is a hell and we can even find out in advance which level we're headed to: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv

non sequitur · 07-17-2007, 02:03 PM

The idea of heaven and hell has never made sense to me. Even when I was a missionary teaching the plan of salvation, I knew in my heart that it wasn't true. It all sounded so silly to me. Why would a God that was able to create a universe settle for such a simple-minded plan?

TheSizzle36 · 07-17-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

I have to disagree, mindful. There very much is a hell and we can even find out in advance which level we're headed to: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv

Looks like I am just going to purgatory. Nice...

Indy Coug · 07-17-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by non sequitur

The idea of heaven and hell has never made sense to me. Even when I was a missionary teaching the plan of salvation, I knew in my heart that it wasn't true. It all sounded so silly to me. Why would a God that was able to create a universe settle for such a simple-minded plan?

Maybe it's because you really don't understand the plan.

jay santos · 07-17-2007, 02:37 PM

It seems silly to refer to a Hollywood movie to describe heaven and hell, but the movie What Dreams May Come is as close as possible to describe how I view it.

Hell was awful in the movie, but it wasn't something a fierce judgemental God was forcing on people to torture them. They had self selected it due to their mental state.

07-17-2007, 11:48 AM	#1
Mindfulcoug Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 812	Nobody goes to hell http://www.religionnewsblog.com/18727/carlton-pearson Has it really taken him so much efforts and time to realise there is not such a thing as hell or heaven unless we make it ourselves???? __________________ I'm smart and I know it.

07-17-2007, 02:03 PM	#7
non sequitur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,964	The idea of heaven and hell has never made sense to me. Even when I was a missionary teaching the plan of salvation, I knew in my heart that it wasn't true. It all sounded so silly to me. Why would a God that was able to create a universe settle for such a simple-minded plan? __________________ ...You've been under attack for days, there's a soldier down, he's wounded, gangrene's setting in, 'Who's used all the penicillin?' 'Oh, Mark Paxson sir, he's got knob rot off of some tart.'" - Gareth Keenan

07-17-2007, 01:47 PM	#6
BarbaraGordon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 7,157	I have to disagree, mindful. There very much is a hell and we can even find out in advance which level we're headed to: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv

07-17-2007, 02:37 PM	#10
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	It seems silly to refer to a Hollywood movie to describe heaven and hell, but the movie What Dreams May Come is as close as possible to describe how I view it. Hell was awful in the movie, but it wasn't something a fierce judgemental God was forcing on people to torture them. They had self selected it due to their mental state.