So who is next?

[Ceteris Paribus]

Originally Posted by Archaea

I can't believe the Church invested its goodwill in such a loser. Losing good political capital for no gain. Why?

Agreed - terrific waste of capital. Messages of intolerance/exclusion simply do not resonate in today's society. Will be interesting to see how this topic is addressed next week in GC. Look for not so subtle inferences to obedience (as in blind) and the suspension of members thinking for ourselves.

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by Tex

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/29/26-27#26

So when can we expect this destruction?

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Tex

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/29/26-27#26

Ohhhhh nooooo!!!!!!!!!! I think you've hit upon the root cause of the financial debacle.

[fusnik11]

Originally Posted by Ceteris Paribus

Agreed - terrific waste of capital. Messages of intolerance/exclusion simply do not resonate in today's society. Will be interesting to see how this topic is addressed next week in GC. Look for not so subtle inferences to obedience (as in blind) and the suspension of members thinking for ourselves.

40% of donations for Prop 8 were made by members.

Billion plus for downtown SLC.

The idea of the dollars being spent by members of the church and the church itself on these two projects makes me sick.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Ceteris Paribus

Agreed - terrific waste of capital. Messages of intolerance/exclusion simply do not resonate in today's society. Will be interesting to see how this topic is addressed next week in GC. Look for not so subtle inferences to obedience (as in blind) and the suspension of members thinking for ourselves.

Don't underestimate how good the LDS Church is at obfuscating, dissembling, ignoring reality and facts. It is nothing if not practiced at that.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Flystripper

So when can we expect this destruction?

Ask the guys who wrote this.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by fusnik11

40% of donations for Prop 8 were made by members.

Billion plus for downtown SLC.

The idea of the dollars being spent by members of the church and the church itself on these two projects makes me sick.

Matt. 7:

15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Mt. 3.10 · Lk. 3.9

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mt. 12.33

[Ceteris Paribus]

Originally Posted by Tex

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/29/26-27#26

Fortunately, there are more positive modern messages related to thinking for ourselves without fear of your beloved apocalypse.

From 1998 FP Message (J. E. Faust):

"As a means of coming to truth, people in the Church are encouraged by their leaders to think and find out for themselves. They are encouraged to ponder, to search, to evaluate, and thereby to come to such knowledge of the truth as their own consciences, assisted by the Spirit of God, lead them to discover.

Brigham Young said: “I am more afraid that this people have so much confidence in their leaders that they will not inquire for themselves of God whether they are led by him. I am fearful they settle down in a state of blind self-security. … Let every man and woman know, by the whispering of the Spirit of God to themselves, whether their leaders are walking in the path the Lord dictates, or not” (Discourses of Brigham Young, sel. John A. Widtsoe [1941], 135). In this manner no one need be deceived."

[Indy Coug]

We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.

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[Ceteris Paribus]

Originally Posted by Tex

Ask the guys who wrote this.

Take your tired message of fire and brimstone and shove it.