What is DC going to say

[MikeWaters]

when the murder rate goes down after guns are allowed to law-abiding citizens?

Mayor Adrian M. Fenty (D) and D.C. Council members expressed understandable outrage at the court's decision. "More handguns in the District of Columbia will only lead to more handgun violence," Mr. Fenty said after the ruling. He and the council should waste no time in refashioning existing laws or crafting new gun control measures. With so much legally up in the air and with many rounds of litigation ahead, the District would be on solid moral and legal ground if it pushed for gun control laws that respected the Supreme Court's puzzling mandate and were as tough as possible.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...html?nav=slate

No doubt they will credit their "other efforts" and that because of them the murder rate went down "in spite of" the court's ruling.

[MikeWaters]

On the other side of the spectrum, Texas now has a castle law that allows, among other things, all legal gun owners to carry concealed in their cars, with no permits required.

Your car, work, and home is part of your castle.

[Indy Coug]

So you guarantee the murder rate is going to go down now? Care to throw out a percentage?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

So you guarantee the murder rate is going to go down now? Care to throw out a percentage?

Most of the data I am aware of is related to concealed carry. John Lott, controversial economist, was the guy who started the field.

There is little argument out there that concealed carry increases gun violence.

DC, being much smaller than most states, will have more variability I'm sure. But yes, I believe that allowing citizens to have guns lowers the crime and murder rate over the long run.

[il Padrino Ute]

With so much legally up in the air and with many rounds of litigation ahead, the District would be on solid moral and legal ground if it pushed for gun control laws that respected the Supreme Court's puzzling mandate and were as tough as possible.

Solid moral and legal ground? To want to place limits on a citizen's 2nd Amendment right?

The Supreme Court's puzzling mandate? The 2nd Amendment really doesn't matter?

Unbelievable.

[Mars]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

So you guarantee the murder rate is going to go down now?

Yes. Absolutely.

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

So you guarantee the murder rate is going to go down now? Care to throw out a percentage?

Maybe your typical thug will think twice before he kicks down granny's door, knowing that granny now has the legal right to blow him away.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Venkman

Maybe your typical thug will think twice before he kicks down granny's door, knowing that granny now has the legal right to blow him away.

Let's not get carried away. While they have a gun at home, they may not be allowed to use them to protect themselves. In Texas, until recently, you were always under obligation to run away. That's the first thing the grand jury is asked. Did he have an opportunity to flee? So Granny has to jump out the window or she is guilty of a crime.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Venkman

Maybe your typical thug will think twice before he kicks down granny's door, knowing that granny now has the legal right to blow him away.

LOL. You think the majority of DC murders are because granny was defenseless?