02-21-2008, 05:33 PM | #21 | |
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-I don't know enough to make a determination on whether HBLee was a racist, nor does that affect me nor my beliefs in any way whatsoever. -I am not uncomfortable with the 'obvious therefore'. I simply don't view it as my place (nor yours) to determine whether the cause of HBLee's death was a split from the Lord on the subject of Blacks receiving the priesthood. Quote:
-I would have no problem with you pesonally disagreeing with HBLee, when he made the pronouncement that blacks would not receive the priesthood during his lifetime (Oh, wait - was that a pronouncement or a rumor based on third-party recountings?). -I would, however, have a problem with you pronouncing, upon his death, that he was wrong and that's why he was killed by God. If you want to maintain the belief that President Lee was taken by God because he wouldn't accept God's direction regarding blacks, you're certainly welcome to. Just don't try to tell me it's a fact, and that I should believe it too. I'll accept that it MIGHT have been the way things went down, so to speak, but I would require PERSONAL REVELATION as such to believe it's true... Lastly, I don't believe that I SHOULD seek personal revelation on that subject. Nor do I believe that it's something God would share with me. |
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02-21-2008, 05:41 PM | #23 | |
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Still, the question, while it included my obvious bias, was a fair question, which I wanted answered by the person it was directed to. I don't feel the need to apologize for that. |
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02-21-2008, 05:49 PM | #24 | |
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02-21-2008, 07:32 PM | #25 | |
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My guess is that none of this happens. Not even a small part. |
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02-21-2008, 07:36 PM | #26 |
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#3 and #7 are really interesting ideas.
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02-21-2008, 07:44 PM | #28 |
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My guess is that every program, as currently situated, is the best it can be, and if there are to be any changes, it certainly will not come from the rank and file members. We live in the best of all words, and don't you forget it.
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God doesn't really care what is done, just as long as the Twelve can all be of one mind and one heart on the matter at hand.
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