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[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Attending my GF's ward last Sunday....during Gospel Doctrine....the lesson was dealing with adversity and more than once the teacher stated her firm belief that if more people just followed the gospel principles, and obeyed the commandments that there wouldn't be so many people in the world on happy pills and having to take anti-depressants and that obeying the word cures all.

Ugh...I so wanted to say something, but didn't.

There would undoubtedly be fewer that fit that description. What's the problem?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

There would undoubtedly be fewer that fit that description. What's the problem?

The impression I glean is the notion amongst some religious and nonreligious folk that "depression" is all mental and not organic. From Rocky's choice of words, she may be accurate in stating some cases of clinical depression are from making wrongful choices. He possibly gathered she was making an anti-clinical diagnosis speech.

[MikeWaters]

Are any of the mullahs going to come up with a substantive rebuttal to the rebuttal?

[JohnnyLingo]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

That's just it. I am not, but you think I am. Thus adding to the creepiness factor.

Number of posts where Lebowski refers to me : 72.

Number of posts where I refer to Lebowski: 18.

You decide.

[Sleeping in EQ]

These women (and men) speaking up is a great idea. I'm not saying you have to agree with them, but considering their points and taking them seriously strikes me as a good idea.

Punishing people for disagreement, making them the problem, and shutting them down in the name of obedience, looks alot like groupthink (albeit in a larger context than Janis' work is typically applied).

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Ironically it's the ones with stones that will sign a petition with their real names. And then they get accused of having no stones.

you gotta be kidding me. You consider signing a petition an act of valor?

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

Punishing people for disagreement, making them the problem, and shutting them down in the name of obedience, looks alot like groupthink (albeit in a larger context than Janis' work is typically applied).

Which is why the church declined comment.

[JohnnyLingo]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

you gotta be kidding me. You consider signing a petition an act of valor?

Only if he agrees with the petition.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Attending my GF's ward last Sunday....during Gospel Doctrine....the lesson was dealing with adversity and more than once the teacher stated her firm belief that if more people just followed the gospel principles, and obeyed the commandments that there wouldn't be so many people in the world on happy pills and having to take anti-depressants and that obeying the word cures all.

Ugh...I so wanted to say something, but didn't.

I would have said, so I take it you endorse Satans plan. We would have all been happy.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Which is why the church declined comment.

In this instance, I hope no disciplinary action is taken against signers of the petition. All concerned would be better off if it is allowed to be spoken and then to die off. If those with differing views are allowed to vent, then it won't remain an issue.