Some people are gullible (baseball player)

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

I don't have time to read everybody's opinion on the baseball player getting kicked out of BYU for his 60% church attendance and not requesting a calling, but if anyone's buying that I've got a bridge...

I don't have any inside scoop to the situation, but if I may be so brash as to speculate, let me make a hypothesis:

Said baseballer (we have baseball at BYU??) sticks his dick where it doesn't belong (or where it does belong depending upon your point of view). Baseballer meets with Bishop. Bishop refuses to sign ecclesiastical endorsement.

So baller has to tell his parents he was kicked out of BYU. Dad says 'why'? Baller, to save face, lies to Dad, telling him it was for "church attendance". Father runs to media, BYU knows nothing, Bishop can't say anything. Suddenly, headlines read "BYU kicks out baseball player for skipping church". Kid won't comment, mostly because he lied about the situation, and the Bishop knows it, the SP knows it, the joint copulator knows it and well as his friends he bragged to about said copulation.

Now, doesn't that make more sense than this BS Trib story.

Again, I don't know what transgression the kid committed. My story was purely hypothetical, but I'm guessing it was more than ditching out on Elder's Quorum. Color me skeptical.

No the Honor Code Office would be involved if it were a sexual transgression. And I don't see Dad running to the newspaper if it were anything else. I also believe the kid is an RM, which lessens the probability of that aspect. I don't buy your argument.

And plus the kid must go public to avoid your unnecessary speculation.

[Judge Smails]

Originally Posted by Archaea

No the Honor Code Office would be involved if it were a sexual transgression. And I don't see Dad running to the newspaper if it were anything else. I also believe the kid is an RM, which lessens the probability of that aspect. I don't buy your argument.

And plus the kid must go public to avoid your unnecessary speculation.

Is that the Protocol? I've got to be honest. I'm not sure how the Bishop-Honor Code relationship works. I've always been under the impression confessions to Bishops are confidential. Do bishops report transgressions to the honor code office?

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

I don't have time to read everybody's opinion on the baseball player getting kicked out of BYU for his 60% church attendance and not requesting a calling, but if anyone's buying that I've got a bridge...

I don't have any inside scoop to the situation, but if I may be so brash as to speculate, let me make a hypothesis:

Said baseballer (we have baseball at BYU??) sticks his dick where it doesn't belong (or where it does belong depending upon your point of view). Baseballer meets with Bishop. Bishop refuses to sign ecclesiastical endorsement.

So baller has to tell his parents he was kicked out of BYU. Dad says 'why'? Baller, to save face, lies to Dad, telling him it was for "church attendance". Father runs to media, BYU knows nothing, Bishop can't say anything. Suddenly, headlines read "BYU kicks out baseball player for skipping church". Kid won't comment, mostly because he lied about the situation, and the Bishop knows it, the SP knows it, the joint copulator knows it and well as his friends he bragged to about said copulation.

Now, doesn't that make more sense than this BS Trib story.

Again, I don't know what transgression the kid committed. My story was purely hypothetical, but I'm guessing it was more than ditching out on Elder's Quorum. Color me skeptical.

Heh. "Absent any evidence, how about I just make something up?"

Nice.

[Judge Smails]

Originally Posted by Tex

Heh. "Absent any evidence, how about I just make something up?"

Nice.

You're right. I'm a pioneer. I've officially broken the message board speculation barrier. Everyone please feel free now.

I love how many on this board are quick to accept the father's speculation (and let's be honest - it's speculation) as gospel, and criticize anyone who presents a more realistic scenario, even when they admitting they're speculating.

I'm not saying the kid committed fornication. If I was guessing, I would say it was more likely beastiality. I saw his picture - he just looks like that kind of guy.

Listen, people make mistakes. Good people commit a variety of sins. I'm one of them. I'm not out to hammer the kid. I hope everything works out for him and he uses the atonement in his life as I try to in mine. If people would just read the story and withhold judgment, I'd stay silent on the topic, but to just bash BYU and this bishop without ever hearing the other side is flat out wrong. Again, they could be completely at fault. But it just doesn't add up for me.

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

Good people commit a variety of sins. I'm one of them.

Oh, so now bad people only commit one type of sin! Not only are they bad people, but their sins lack creativity.

What variety of sins do you commit? Give us some examples.

[Judge Smails]

Originally Posted by YOhio

Oh, so now bad people only commit one type of sin! Not only are they bad people, but their sins lack creativity.

What variety of sins do you commit? Give us some examples.

I used the word 'dick' once on a message board.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

You're right. I'm a pioneer. I've officially broken the message board speculation barrier. Everyone please feel free now.

Ok.

Personally, I think the kid confessed to believing in UFO's and told Bishop Childs that he wanted to run away to a nudist colony. Therefore, Childs was totally justified in pulling his endorsement, and the HC office didn't get involved.

There, now the story finally makes sense. Thanks for "freeing" us, Smails.

[Judge Smails]

Originally Posted by Tex

Ok.

Personally, I think the kid confessed to believing in UFO's and told Bishop Childs that he wanted to run away to a nudist colony. Therefore, Childs was totally justified in pulling his endorsement, and the HC office didn't get involved.

There, now the story finally makes sense. Thanks for "freeing" us, Smails.

I'd put that story at about even odds with him being kicked out of school for 60% church attendance.

[livecoug]

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

I don't have time to read everybody's opinion on the baseball player getting kicked out of BYU for his 60% church attendance and not requesting a calling, but if anyone's buying that I've got a bridge...

I don't have any inside scoop to the situation, but if I may be so brash as to speculate, let me make a hypothesis:

Said baseballer (we have baseball at BYU??) sticks his dick where it doesn't belong (or where it does belong depending upon your point of view). Baseballer meets with Bishop. Bishop refuses to sign ecclesiastical endorsement.

So baller has to tell his parents he was kicked out of BYU. Dad says 'why'? Baller, to save face, lies to Dad, telling him it was for "church attendance". Father runs to media, BYU knows nothing, Bishop can't say anything. Suddenly, headlines read "BYU kicks out baseball player for skipping church". Kid won't comment, mostly because he lied about the situation, and the Bishop knows it, the SP knows it, the joint copulator knows it and well as his friends he bragged to about said copulation.

Now, doesn't that make more sense than this BS Trib story.

Again, I don't know what transgression the kid committed. My story was purely hypothetical, but I'm guessing it was more than ditching out on Elder's Quorum. Color me skeptical.

Bingo, brother smails. This is not about church attendance. Ryan Kessman was not kicked out for drinking coffee. I'm not saying this cause I don't think leaders of the church or BYU can be criticized, but because this is the only logical explanation.

[ewth8tr]

Originally Posted by livecoug

Bingo, brother smails. This is not about church attendance. Ryan Kessman was not kicked out for drinking coffee. I'm not saying this cause I don't think leaders of the church or BYU can be criticized, but because this is the only logical explanation.

well, besides the fact the honor code office said it had nothing to do with the honor code.