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SteelBlue · 08-31-2005, 07:16 PM

all figured out. Turns out God was targeting New Orleans. Nevermind that folks knew it was coming for 2 days and that it was almost exclusively the poor who had to stay behind. Comments like these frighten me.

http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=1405074

UtahDan · 08-31-2005, 07:33 PM

If made in the proper spirit I can appreciate what I think he is getting at.

I'm the last person to see "signs of the times" everywhere or to believe that bad acts lead to God "punishing" us temporally as individuals BUT it is irrefutable that God has punished PEOPLES in the past.

I don't think you can say with certainty one way or the other. I tend to the side of the fence that says "God doesn't really do that sort of thing and couldn't possibly be behind it" but I do feel pretty sure that wickedness, in theory, can lead to the withdrawal of protection. The BOM says this particularly with respect to the American continent.

I guess my bottom line is that I tend to not agree that this destruction was occassioned by wickedness, but I would not be shocked to learn that it was. People have been seeing the end of the world just around the corner since the moment that Christ ascended. On the other hand, the last days are coming eventually and at somepoint the doomsayers will be right.

Archaea · 08-31-2005, 07:44 PM

I'll just check it up to natural causes. I imagine God works that way from time to time, but not very often.

Here, nobody wicked really got hurt, just the poor and elderly. Protection may have been withdrawn, but to declare it a sign of the times is something I no longer do. I may have done so as a naive missionary. I don't recall any more.

BTW, I hope you golf better than I do Dan.

fusnik11 · 08-31-2005, 07:51 PM

is actually quite scary.....

especially since ive read the board and more than 1 poster has predicted, san francisco and vegas will soon meet their demise...

oh and im pretty upset no one here on the guard asked if i wanted to golf with them this weekend.....

pretty lame if you ask me.

Archaea · 08-31-2005, 07:56 PM

PAC will let you in.

MikeWaters · 08-31-2005, 07:59 PM

I've golfed twice in my life, and none since high school, if that tells you anything.

Good memories. Whiffing on my first swing in front of the ward members. Rented clubs, but never occurred to me to pay for green fee. Chipping off one hole's fairway onto another. Constantly looking for my ball. Throwing ball over pond (didn't want to lose another). Good times.

SoCalCoug · 08-31-2005, 09:39 PM

I think people misconstrue "signs of the times" - I think people interpret things that are prophesied to happen as being intentionally caused for some purpose.

For a natural disaster (or a series of natural disasters) to be a sign of the times, it merely means that these are things that are going to happen at some point - when they do, you know the time of the second coming is drawing near.

It's like if you tell someone how to get to your house, and you tell them that there's a big tree on the side of the road, and that when you get to that, you're only a block away. You didn't put that tree there - it's merely a reference point.

Just because an occurrence is a "sign of the times" doesn't mean God caused it as some sort of punishment.

08-31-2005, 07:16 PM	#1
SteelBlue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Posts: 5,821	Looks like some folks on cougarboard have the hurricane all figured out. Turns out God was targeting New Orleans. Nevermind that folks knew it was coming for 2 days and that it was almost exclusively the poor who had to stay behind. Comments like these frighten me. http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=1405074

08-31-2005, 07:33 PM	#2
UtahDan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Bluth Home Posts: 3,877	I don't know.. If made in the proper spirit I can appreciate what I think he is getting at. I'm the last person to see "signs of the times" everywhere or to believe that bad acts lead to God "punishing" us temporally as individuals BUT it is irrefutable that God has punished PEOPLES in the past. I don't think you can say with certainty one way or the other. I tend to the side of the fence that says "God doesn't really do that sort of thing and couldn't possibly be behind it" but I do feel pretty sure that wickedness, in theory, can lead to the withdrawal of protection. The BOM says this particularly with respect to the American continent. I guess my bottom line is that I tend to not agree that this destruction was occassioned by wickedness, but I would not be shocked to learn that it was. People have been seeing the end of the world just around the corner since the moment that Christ ascended. On the other hand, the last days are coming eventually and at somepoint the doomsayers will be right. __________________ The Bible tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go. -Galileo

08-31-2005, 07:44 PM	#3
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Until revealed otherwise I'll just check it up to natural causes. I imagine God works that way from time to time, but not very often. Here, nobody wicked really got hurt, just the poor and elderly. Protection may have been withdrawn, but to declare it a sign of the times is something I no longer do. I may have done so as a naive missionary. I don't recall any more. BTW, I hope you golf better than I do Dan. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

08-31-2005, 07:51 PM	#4
fusnik11 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,506	that train of thought.... is actually quite scary..... especially since ive read the board and more than 1 poster has predicted, san francisco and vegas will soon meet their demise... oh and im pretty upset no one here on the guard asked if i wanted to golf with them this weekend..... pretty lame if you ask me.

08-31-2005, 07:56 PM	#5
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	there are spots available, do you want to golf this weekend? PAC will let you in. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

08-31-2005, 07:59 PM	#6
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I've golfed twice in my life, and none since high school, if that tells you anything. Good memories. Whiffing on my first swing in front of the ward members. Rented clubs, but never occurred to me to pay for green fee. Chipping off one hole's fairway onto another. Constantly looking for my ball. Throwing ball over pond (didn't want to lose another). Good times.

08-31-2005, 09:39 PM	#7
SoCalCoug Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 3,059	I think people misconstrue "signs of the times" - I think people interpret things that are prophesied to happen as being intentionally caused for some purpose. For a natural disaster (or a series of natural disasters) to be a sign of the times, it merely means that these are things that are going to happen at some point - when they do, you know the time of the second coming is drawing near. It's like if you tell someone how to get to your house, and you tell them that there's a big tree on the side of the road, and that when you get to that, you're only a block away. You didn't put that tree there - it's merely a reference point. Just because an occurrence is a "sign of the times" doesn't mean God caused it as some sort of punishment. __________________ Get your stinking paws off me, you damned, dirty Yewt! "Now perhaps as I spanked myself screaming out "Kozlowski, say it like you mean it bitch!" might have been out of line, but such was the mood." - Goatnapper "If you want to fatten a pig up to make the pig MORE delicious, you can feed it almost anything. Seriously. The pig is like the car on Back to the Future. You put in garbage, and out comes something magical!" - Cali Coug