Wow, here's a real shocker - cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board

SoCalCoug · 11-20-2007, 11:27 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21903753/

JohnnyLingo · 11-21-2007, 12:12 AM

Yes, shocking that someone blames Bush for something bad that happened.

I'm actually rather numb to it by now.

Detroitdad · 11-21-2007, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo

Yes, shocking that someone blames Bush for something bad that happened.

I'm actually rather numb to it by now.

I know. That Scot McLellan is such a hardcore feminazi leftist. He will not rest until the republican party is destroyed and he has devoted his life to the same. Besides, he was never in any position to know.

Of course, he might sell a few extra books this way, too.

Frank Ryan · 11-21-2007, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo

Yes, shocking that someone blames Bush for something bad that happened.

I'm actually rather numb to it by now.

that's right, you're part of the bush can do no wrong crowd.

Tex · 11-21-2007, 12:50 PM

Aside from the obvious negative implications of a President potentially misleading the public on purpose (which I would agree needs to be explained), can someone tell me why this is a big deal?

We know who the leaker was now (Richard Armitage). We know it wasn't a politically-motivated leak. This just seems like a continued attempt to make the decade's biggest non-story live a little bit longer. I am surprised it comes from McClellan.

JohnnyLingo · 11-21-2007, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Ryan

that's right, you're part of the bush can do no wrong crowd.

Nope.

Bush sucks on immigration and I'm not happy with how he's handled Iraq since the initial invasion.

Jeff Lebowski · 11-21-2007, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex

Aside from the obvious negative implications of a President potentially misleading the public on purpose (which I would agree needs to be explained), can someone tell me why this is a big deal?

We know who the leaker was now (Richard Armitage). We know it wasn't a politically-motivated leak. This just seems like a continued attempt to make the decade's biggest non-story live a little bit longer. I am surprised it comes from McClellan.

Good heavens. Are you kidding me? A president deliberately lying to the public should always be a big deal. Bush was elected largely as a backlash to Clinton's finger-wagging lies to the public. He was supposed to represent integrity. Hell, that's why I voted for him in round one.

Archaea · 11-21-2007, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Good heavens. Are you kidding me? A president deliberately lying to the public should always be a big deal. Bush was elected largely as a backlash to Clinton's finger-wagging lies to the public. He was supposed to represent integrity. Hell, that's why I voted for him in round one.

You're too trusting. I expect all sides to lie to me. It's just a matter of which lie I prefer to live with.

Tex · 11-21-2007, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Good heavens. Are you kidding me? A president deliberately lying to the public should always be a big deal. Bush was elected largely as a backlash to Clinton's finger-wagging lies to the public. He was supposed to represent integrity. Hell, that's why I voted for him in round one.

Um, I think I acknowledged that in my first paragraph. Maybe you didn't read very carefully.

I'm talking about as it concerns the Plame issue.

Jeff Lebowski · 11-21-2007, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex

Um, I think I acknowledged that in my first paragraph. Maybe you didn't read very carefully.

I'm talking about as it concerns the Plame issue.

Yes, but that's just the point. Assuming McClellan is telling the truth (and there seems to be no reason to doubt him) the lying by the president is the big deal. I am surprised that you would attempt to brush it off like that.

Then again, perhaps his presidency is so far down the toilet at this point that folks will just shrug their shoulders and move on.

11-20-2007, 11:27 PM	#1
SoCalCoug Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 3,059	Wow, here's a real shocker http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21903753/ __________________ Get your stinking paws off me, you damned, dirty Yewt! "Now perhaps as I spanked myself screaming out "Kozlowski, say it like you mean it bitch!" might have been out of line, but such was the mood." - Goatnapper "If you want to fatten a pig up to make the pig MORE delicious, you can feed it almost anything. Seriously. The pig is like the car on Back to the Future. You put in garbage, and out comes something magical!" - Cali Coug

11-21-2007, 12:50 PM	#5
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	Aside from the obvious negative implications of a President potentially misleading the public on purpose (which I would agree needs to be explained), can someone tell me why this is a big deal? We know who the leaker was now (Richard Armitage). We know it wasn't a politically-motivated leak. This just seems like a continued attempt to make the decade's biggest non-story live a little bit longer. I am surprised it comes from McClellan. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young Last edited by Tex; 11-21-2007 at 02:33 PM.

11-21-2007, 12:12 AM	#2
JohnnyLingo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,175	Yes, shocking that someone blames Bush for something bad that happened. I'm actually rather numb to it by now.