It is a thrill to see a wolf

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Price of doing business. Who pays the doctor when the patient can't pay?

Do ranchers get subsidies like farmers? I don't see why they wouldn't, as meat raisers. If so, how offensive is it that they won't tolerate a wolf kill every now and then for the common good?

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Do ranchers get subsidies like farmers? I don't see why they wouldn't, as meat raisers. If so, how offensive is it that they won't tolerate a wolf kill every now and then for the common good?

I don't know of any subsidies for either dairy farmers or cattle ranchers, and if there were any I am pretty sure I would have heard of it. The only subsidy one could argue is the cheap renting of government owned land for summer pasture, but even that is now a competitive bid process and some pussie from Sun Valley, John "Super" Marvel, has been using Hollywood elite donations to outbid the ranchers all over the state.

To be honest, I am somewhat surprised Super Marvel is still alive.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

I don't know of any subsidies for either dairy farmers or cattle ranchers, and if there were any I am pretty sure I would have heard of it. The only subsidy one could argue is the cheap renting of government owned land for summer pasture, but even that is now a competitive bid process and some pussie from Sun Valley, John "Super" Marvel, has been using Hollywood elite donations to outbid the ranchers all over the state.

To be honest, I am somewhat surprised Super Marvel is still alive.

You've never heard of dairy subsidies?

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6764

Funny that the ranchers would think that they own the federal land.

[MikeWaters]

Interesting article about Jon Marvel from 1999.

http://www.hcn.org/servlets/hcn.Article?article_id=5134

I love that he wears a button "end welfare ranching."

He makes the point that it costs more to feed a hamster every month than ranchers pay the govt. to rape the land with their cattle. Ridiculous. Idaho passed a law specifically to prevent him from bidding on leases, but it was overturned by the state supreme court.