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Cali Coug · 04-29-2008, 05:42 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...d_n_99082.html

YOhio · 04-29-2008, 06:01 AM

Yeah, good luck with that one.

Detroitdad · 04-29-2008, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by YOhio

Yeah, good luck with that one.

It's a legitimate point after all of the name calling of the last few election cycles that has sufficed as campaigning.

Cali Coug · 04-29-2008, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by YOhio

Yeah, good luck with that one.

McCain is going to struggle with foreign policy. First of all, he is on the wrong side of public opinion on the war. He has stumbled several times in describing the relationship between al-Qaeda, Iran, Iraq, the Sunnis and the Shiites. His quotes on Iraq as of 3 years ago were very different than today, which undermines his message of consistency. He has been a hawk with Russia and Iran at a time when Americans overwhelmingly are looking for less hostile foreign relations. His "100 year" quote certainly won't go over well either, and the DCCC is already running an ad featuring McCain's quote. He is opposed to torture which doesn't help him with his base. I don't think the Dems will need much luck with that one.

YOhio · 04-29-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Detroitdad

It's a legitimate point after all of the name calling of the last few election cycles that has sufficed as campaigning.

It may be a completely legit point, but it's not going to stick. It's not sexy, it's a nuanced point, and the Dems are trying to paint McCain as a guy who wants to stay at war in Iraq for 100 years and their case would be hurt by trotting out this info. If their strategy is to try and stick a flip-flopper label on McCain, they need to find something more damning.

Indy Coug · 04-29-2008, 01:31 PM

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"I would hope that we could bring them all home," he said on MSNBC. "I would hope that we would probably leave some military advisers, as we have in other countries, to help them with their training and equipment and that kind of stuff."

Yeah, that's a pretty categorical statement. Besides, there's a distinct difference between personal wishes and reconciling those personal wishes with harsh reality.

myboynoah · 04-29-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

McCain is going to struggle with foreign policy. First of all, he is on the wrong side of public opinion on the war. He has stumbled several times in describing the relationship between al-Qaeda, Iran, Iraq, the Sunnis and the Shiites. His quotes on Iraq as of 3 years ago were very different than today, which undermines his message of consistency. He has been a hawk with Russia and Iran at a time when Americans overwhelmingly are looking for less hostile foreign relations. His "100 year" quote certainly won't go over well either, and the DCCC is already running an ad featuring McCain's quote. He is opposed to torture which doesn't help him with his base. I don't think the Dems will need much luck with that one.

I hope that debate comes. McCain will eat Obama's lunch.

Americans are very schizo on the war. Who doesn't want to disengage? That's a given. It's how to do that and under what circumstances. Obama has set a definite time table, from which his advisor then backed away. He has little idea what he really wants to do.

I welcome that debate. Even good luck won't help Obama.

BYU71 · 04-29-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...d_n_99082.html

That is what this is all about, he "hopes" we don't have to stay there. Dang, imagine if he said I "hope" we have to stay there and all hell breaks out in the middle east.

So if Roosevelt had said, "I hope we don't have to go to war with Japan", I guess he was a flip flopper when Japan attacked us and we went to war.

Weak Cali, very weak.

Tex · 04-29-2008, 02:28 PM

I wish McCain weren't our nominee, but thinking foreign policy is going to be his weak side is foolish.

Wishful thinking.

Cali Coug · 04-29-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

I wish McCain weren't our nominee, but thinking foreign policy is going to be his weak side is foolish.

Wishful thinking.

McCain is having enough trouble keeping his facts straight when he isn't being attacked. Fortunately for him, he has had Lieberman next to him to help him out in the past. Short of Lieberman holding his hand during a debate, I don't think Dems have much to worry about from McCain on foreign policy.

You may agree with his views, but that doesn't mean he is good at articulating them. I wonder how Mitt Romney feels about McCain's quotes above.

04-29-2008, 05:42 AM	#1
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04-29-2008, 02:28 PM	#9
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04-29-2008, 06:01 AM	#2
YOhio AKA SeattleNewt Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,055	Yeah, good luck with that one.