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creekster · 11-01-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I think it says a parent of the boy. Not any parent. that wouldn't make any sense.

Of course if wards choose not to follow the handbook, and they have the approval of their local leaders and parents--more power to you.

This is corrrect. An 11 yo can only attend scout overnight activities if accopmanied by his own parent. As in many situations in life, not just any parent will do.

SeattleUte · 11-01-2007, 07:19 PM

Since we're being judgmental about K-Dog, calling him a pussy and such, I offer this. Part of being a good parent is exposing your kids to experiences that may enrich their lives and/or provide a foundation for continuing enrichment even after you're gone. This may mean participating in experiences that are not your cup of tea, perhaps just because your parents negleted to expose you to them. Even one who's not the world's most intrepid camper must ackowledge that there is meaning and value to be gained by a certain type of person from camping, and in any event your kids will be better off if he acquires rudimentary camping skills come what may. See McCarthy's The Road. I find comments such as "we're not campers" or "we're not good at math," etc. extremely limiting, even damaging to children.

MikeWaters · 11-01-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Since we're being judgmental about K-Dog, calling him a pussy and such, I offer this. Part of being a good parent is exposing your kids to experiences that may enrich their lives and/or provide a foundation for continuing enrichment even after you're gone. This may mean participating in experiences that are not your cup of tea, perhaps just because your parents negleted to expose you to them. Even one who's not the world's most intrepid camper must ackowledge that there is meaning and value to be gained by a certain type of person from camping, and in any event your kids will be better off if he acquires rudimentary camping skills come what may. See McCarthy's The Road. I find comments such as "we're not campers" or "we're not good at math," etc. extremely limiting, even damaging to children.

I've been waiting two years for a post from you that I could agree with. So I would hate to not acknowledge the fact now, that I agree with you.

creekster · 11-01-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Since we're being judgmental about K-Dog, calling him a pussy and such, I offer this. Part of being a good parent is exposing your kids to experiences that may enrich their lives and/or provide a foundation for continuing enrichment even after you're gone. This may mean participating in experiences that are not your cup of tea, perhaps just because your parents negleted to expose you to them. Even one who's not the world's most intrepid camper must ackowledge that there is meaning and value to be gained by a certain type of person from camping, and in any event your kids will be better off if he acquires rudimentary camping skills come what may. See McCarthy's The Road. I find comments such as "we're not campers" or "we're not good at math," etc. extremely limiting, even damaging to children.

But I am NOT good at math!

SeattleUte · 11-01-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by creekster

But I am NOT good at math!

Lol.

I know you know this. Sooner or later we learn our kids' lives are not all about us; on the contrary, we ultimately are at best supporting actors, certainly not the stars in the dramas of their individual lives. We are force fed the lesson usually by the time they turn 14 (girls often sooner), and optimally we figure it out much sooner, particularly if we want to make them at all in our own image.

SeattleUte · 11-01-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I've been waiting two years for a post from you that I could agree with. So I would hate to not acknowledge the fact now, that I agree with you.

I see the dark side within you, my son. I know you know I speak truth.

MikeWaters · 11-01-2007, 07:40 PM

SU what happened to your older kids? You never talk about them. I figure something terrible happened to them, or they turned out to be terrible disappoints, i.e. returned missionary, married in temple, etc.

myboynoah · 11-01-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I know you know this. Sooner or later we learn our kids' lives are not all about us; on the contrary, we ultimately are at best supporting actors, certainly not the stars in the dramas of their individual lives. We are force fed the lesson usually by the time they turn 14 (girls often sooner), and optimally we figure it out much sooner, particularly if we want to make them at all in our own image.

Stop it, just stop it. I'm going to blow out a frontal lobe here trying to deal with the inner turmoil you are causing.

I liked you better when you were obsessing over whether or not your child would get into the elite private elementary school (with room enough for a pony). That is the SU I've become accustomed to pointing at and saying, "See, that's exactly what happens to those people."

How did that turn out? I hope he got in.

creekster · 11-01-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by myboynoah

Stop it, just stop it. I'm going to blow out a frontal lobe here trying to deal with the inner turmoil you are causing.

I liked you better when you were obsessing over whether or not your child would get into the elite private elementary school (with room enough for a pony). That is the SU I've become accustomed to pointing at and saying, "See, that's exactly what happens to those people."

How did that turn out? I hope he got in.

WHat if SU's kids really dig monster truck rallies and deep fried oreos?

myboynoah · 11-01-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by creekster

WHat if SU's kids really dig monster truck rallies and deep fried oreos?

Then we will know there really is a God.

11-01-2007, 07:19 PM	#42
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	Since we're being judgmental about K-Dog, calling him a pussy and such, I offer this. Part of being a good parent is exposing your kids to experiences that may enrich their lives and/or provide a foundation for continuing enrichment even after you're gone. This may mean participating in experiences that are not your cup of tea, perhaps just because your parents negleted to expose you to them. Even one who's not the world's most intrepid camper must ackowledge that there is meaning and value to be gained by a certain type of person from camping, and in any event your kids will be better off if he acquires rudimentary camping skills come what may. See McCarthy's The Road. I find comments such as "we're not campers" or "we're not good at math," etc. extremely limiting, even damaging to children. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

11-01-2007, 07:40 PM	#47
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	SU what happened to your older kids? You never talk about them. I figure something terrible happened to them, or they turned out to be terrible disappoints, i.e. returned missionary, married in temple, etc.