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Old 12-16-2015, 04:51 PM   #51
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And you have a problem with that?
Utah and USU fans deserve to be annoyed as much as possible.
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Old 12-16-2015, 04:55 PM   #52
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My point is that I don't have the impression Utah fans want Whitt fired or gone.
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Old 12-16-2015, 05:04 PM   #53
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My point is that I don't have the impression Utah fans want Whitt fired or gone.
I don't think so either, and I would enjoy seeing the meltdown between their fans being angry at BYU and at their AD at the same time. They work so hard on maintaining their arrogant aura of superiority to the point that they have to respond en masse to national media types to explain how we're not even good enough to be considered their rival anymore, which no one outside their bubble believes. Then they have to fall down to the LV bowl to play us. Then they lose their coach to that inferior school they don't consider worthy to be their rival. It would be epic.

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Old 12-16-2015, 05:24 PM   #54
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He is more than a proven coach
A proven successful coach that knows the state, knows the LDS athlete, and knows BYU. That's the appeal. And he is a better recruiter than Bronco. How that translates over from a state school to a church school is a valid question. I find it hard to believe he wouldn't recruit better than Bronco. How much is the question.

I would also be fine with Coach Ken N. if that's the direction they go. He is a proven winner at a place that is hard to win at. His record there is consistent and impressive. There is no doubt he is very good at running a program. His ceiling could be higher than KWhitt, but there are also higher risks. What are his coaching connections with potential OC's who would run an offense that makes sense for BYU? The triple option does not make sense for the talent we have now, and we simply can't afford three years of rebuilding to get to that point. Also, it's way too limiting in terms of recruiting. If he put together a great staff I think he would do a great job.

You could also rgue both coaches come through the good old boys network in different ways. Holmoe and Whitt from playing together and Coach Ken through the tight knit LDS community. I mean, he starred in a church movie.
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A proven successful coach that knows the state, knows the LDS athlete, and knows BYU. That's the appeal. And he is a better recruiter than Bronco. How that translates over from a state school to a church school is a valid question. I find it hard to believe he wouldn't recruit better than Bronco. How much is the question.

I would also be fine with Coach Ken N. if that's the direction they go. He is a proven winner at a place that is hard to win at. His record there is consistent and impressive. There is no doubt he is very good at running a program. His ceiling could be higher than KWhitt, but there are also higher risks. What are his coaching connections with potential OC's who would run an offense that makes sense for BYU? The triple option does not make sense for the talent we have now, and we simply can't afford three years of rebuilding to get to that point. Also, it's way too limiting in terms of recruiting. If he put together a great staff I think he would do a great job.

You could also rgue both coaches come through the good old boys network in different ways. Holmoe and Whitt from playing together and Coach Ken through the tight knit LDS community. I mean, he starred in a church movie.
The Church movie highlights Mormons generally thought to be outside the network.

We did not let Whit or Bronco choose their own staff.

It comes down to this: Which Head Coach is most able to get the elite LDS athletes at the most important non-QB positions to come home?

Is recruiting more important or scheme?
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The Church movie highlights Mormons generally thought to be outside the network.

We did not let Whit or Bronco choose their own staff.

It comes down to this: Which Head Coach is most able to get the elite LDS athletes at the most important non-QB positions to come home?

Is recruiting more important or scheme?
How have we not let Whit choose his staff? No one has been hired or fired yet. I think he'll be free to do what he wants. Crowton had to keep Lavell's staff. Maybe that was a bad decision, but it's way in the past. Bronco for the most part was allowed to do what he wanted. Anae was hired first while BYU was talking to Whit. Why? The story at the time was that Whit told Holmoe if he came that he wanted Anae. So they got it done. Then Whit went to Utah instead. I don't think anything like that is happening right now though.
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Got a 7 day ban on CB for my joke about Coach Ken getting ticked off that a BYU admin called him up due to problems with his receipts for his $25 per diem. CB said it was a disguised attack against the church. They're hilarious.
You're Howard Stern and I'm Oprah. I can get away with saying stuff you can't.
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People whom I have never heard of, never remember interacting with, probably weren't on CB when I was on CB, hate my guts.

It's kind of weird.

I guess I have a larger footprint than I give myself credit for.

So we still haven't hired anyone. Someone go check twitter.
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Old 12-16-2015, 11:49 PM   #59
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People whom I have never heard of, never remember interacting with, probably weren't on CB when I was on CB, hate my guts.

It's kind of weird.

I guess I have a larger footprint than I give myself credit for.

So we still haven't hired anyone. Someone go check twitter.
It reminds me of the song from the musical "1776" about Jefferson writing the Declaration of Independence, because Adams is obnoxious and disliked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776_%28film%29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQbYgLae1u0



Here is the stage version.

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