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Originally Posted by Adam

Petite was clean and has never been accused of using. He was only accused of knowing about Clemens' using.

And Clemens has never failed a drug test (like Bonds has) and his head hasn't grown like Bonds or Sosa. If Clemens used, it was only late in his career to overcome injury, most likely.

While there might be an occasional pitcher who used, the vast majority are not suspected. In baseball it was the overwhelmingly power hitters who used.

In cycling, it is everyone. Surely you can admit that distinction.

Adam, you should be embarrassed that you hit the "submit reply" button on this one. Pettite gave the standard pitcher's line that "it was for healing" but everyone knows what that means now. There really is no question that Clemens used. You don't get better in your 40's when you were world class in your 20's and 30's. You keep saying that it was only an occasional pitcher. I think the fact that 2 of the Yankees most high profile pitchers used should be a red flag for that line of thinking. I think you're having trouble seeing the truth through your Yankee goggles.

BTW, there is no test for HGH that is considered scientifically valid. Since they couldn't/weren't testing for it why do you use the "never tested positive" line of thinking anyway?