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il Padrino Ute · 02-28-2008, 07:16 PM

My guess would be that they want the economic benefits of marriage more than anything else.

T Blue · 02-28-2008, 07:18 PM

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I think it is a biological response, your getting sick, not a spiritual response.

I am not so sure about God's intent like I used to be. I was sure homosexuality was a choice, now I am not. I was sure a man couldn't be born who was really a woman. Now I know that stuff happens. How can I condemn a baby born that way. I guess I could be pissed at God for letting it happen, but I prefer just not to think I know God's intent.

So if it's not Gods intent, why is the church so adamantly against it?

Like I said I suppose this is like the Blacks and the priesthood, someday the Brethren will come around to the correct way of thinking and allow Bill and Ted to be married for eternity in the Temple.

Flystripper · 02-28-2008, 07:23 PM

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So if it's not Gods intent, why is the church so adamantly against it?

Like I said I suppose this is like the Blacks and the priesthood, someday the Brethren will come around to the correct way of thinking and allow Bill and Ted to be married for eternity in the Temple.

The Church of today is significantly different than the church of 150 years ago. I expect the Church of 150 years from now to be significantly different that the church of today.

RC Vikings · 02-28-2008, 07:29 PM

Why do they want to get married? Maybe they are tired of having sex.

malapert · 02-28-2008, 08:59 PM

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Why do they want to get married? Maybe they are tired of having sex.

LOL....sounds like a voice of experience.

BYU71 · 02-28-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by T Blue

So if it's not Gods intent, why is the church so adamantly against it?

Like I said I suppose this is like the Blacks and the priesthood, someday the Brethren will come around to the correct way of thinking and allow Bill and Ted to be married for eternity in the Temple.

If God is OK with birth control, why was the church so adamently against it in the 60's.

I doubt very much we will ever see Bill and Ted happily having a wedding ceremony.

I personally don't think you can say what God's intent though will be for all time based on what the church is adamantly for or against right now. I can see the day when a fornicator isn't excommunicated and told to stand in front of the Priesthood and confess and apologize for his sin.

T Blue · 02-28-2008, 09:19 PM

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If God is OK with birth control, why was the church so adamently against it in the 60's.

I doubt very much we will ever see Bill and Ted happily having a wedding ceremony.

I personally don't think you can say what God's intent though will be for all time based on what the church is adamantly for or against right now. I can see the day when a fornicator isn't excommunicated and told to stand in front of the Priesthood and confess and apologize for his sin.

My parents, whom I just spoke with concerning the birth control issue you raised, said they weren't aware of it being taught over the pulpet, they said the could not even recall it being discussed as a serious discussion by anyone with real authority.

Things that make you go hmmmm...........

UtahDan · 02-28-2008, 09:48 PM

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My parents, whom I just spoke with concerning the birth control issue you raised, said they weren't aware of it being taught over the pulpet, they said the could not even recall it being discussed as a serious discussion by anyone with real authority.

Things that make you go hmmmm...........

Wow 71, you've been caught in a lie AGAIN. When will you learn.

BYU71 · 02-28-2008, 10:23 PM

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Wow 71, you've been caught in a lie AGAIN. When will you learn.

LOL, well I remember being in a Zone Conference. One of the Elders asked what do we tell people when they ask about our stand on birth control.

We were told by the mission President that we are to teach the Doctrine of the Church. We don't believe in birth control.

Perhaps if I had been in the stage of life I am now, I would have raised my hand and said, is that really church doctrine of your own opinion. Back then I just assumed the President knew more about church doctrine than I did.

I do know young people were told not to put off marriage or put off having children. The fact mormons were known for having large families would tend to support my contention.

It isn't a big deal to me. Maybe I was just around more of the fundamentalist folks in the church than T Blue's parents were.

BYU71 · 02-28-2008, 10:41 PM

"We declare it is a grievious sin before God to adopt restrictive measures in disobedience to Gods command to multiply and replenish the earth, surely those who project such measures to prevent life or destroy life before or after birth will reap the whirlwind of God's retribution, for God will not be mocked.

Prophet Harold B. Lee, conference report Oct. 1972, pg 63

You can go to yahoo and look up Ezra T Bensons comments where he uses the word "evil". You can look up what Brother McConkie had to say and others.

Nice to know I didn't make this stuff up and actually was listening to the brethern back in my youth. Hmmmmmmmm

02-28-2008, 07:16 PM	#11
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	My guess would be that they want the economic benefits of marriage more than anything else. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

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RC Vikings Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Rexburg, Idaho Posts: 2,236	Why do they want to get married? Maybe they are tired of having sex. __________________ "I always rode to my limit. If I won by three minutes, that's because I couldn't make four." Eddy Merckx

02-28-2008, 10:41 PM	#20
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	"We declare it is a grievious sin before God to adopt restrictive measures in disobedience to Gods command to multiply and replenish the earth, surely those who project such measures to prevent life or destroy life before or after birth will reap the whirlwind of God's retribution, for God will not be mocked. Prophet Harold B. Lee, conference report Oct. 1972, pg 63 You can go to yahoo and look up Ezra T Bensons comments where he uses the word "evil". You can look up what Brother McConkie had to say and others. Nice to know I didn't make this stuff up and actually was listening to the brethern back in my youth. Hmmmmmmmm