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Old 04-09-2009, 08:30 PM   #1
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Here was Oaks quoting CS Lewis:

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C. S. Lewis explained this teaching of the Savior: “The moment you have a self at all, there is a possibility of putting yourself first—wanting to be the centre—wanting to be God, in fact. That was the sin of Satan: and that was the sin he taught the human race. Some people think the fall of man had something to do with sex, but that is a mistake. . . . What Satan put into the heads of our remote ancestors was the idea that they could ‘be like gods’—could set up on their own as if they had created themselves—be their own masters—invent some sort of happiness for themselves outside God, apart from God. And out of that hopeless attempt has come . . . the long terrible story of man trying to find something other than God which will make him happy.”
So now we have an apostle saying it is wrong for people to want to "be like gods"??

So it appears that "As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become" has now been officially disavowed by the Church. It has gone the way of Adam-God theory and Blood Atonement.
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To have apostles of the Lord taking their instruction from C.S. Lewis.....I don't even want to go there.

GBH put a stake into the heart of gnostic Mormonism, and it is talks like this that are finishing it off.
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I don't think Oaks is saying it's wrong to want to become like God.

And Neal Maxwell quoted C.S. Lewis his entire career, pre-dating his call to the Twelve and to the Seventy.
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Here was Oaks quoting CS Lewis:



So now we have an apostle saying it is wrong for people to want to "be like gods"??

So it appears that "As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become" has now been officially disavowed by the Church. It has gone the way of Adam-God theory and Blood Atonement.
No, what he is clearly saying the problem is for man to think they can be like Gods without actually needing God.

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What Satan put into the heads of our remote ancestors was the idea that they could ‘be like gods’—could set up on their own as if they had created themselves—be their own masters—invent some sort of happiness for themselves outside God, apart from God.
It doesn't take a careful reading of the very passage you cited to understand what he means.
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No, what he is clearly saying the problem is for man to think they can be like Gods without actually needing God.



It doesn't take a careful reading of the very passage you cited to understand what he means.
I think Cardiac was trolling. CUF religion section must not be doing it for him.
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I think Cardiac was trolling. CUF religion section must not be doing it for him.
I'm only sort of trolling.

Wouldn't a clarification have been in order? In the context of the LDS belief in eternal progression to Godhood, I think the quote is definitely confusing.
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