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Old 01-03-2006, 07:47 PM   #31
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Seeing this movie isn't going to change my view nor opinion on homosexuality.

Ugh seeing the previews in the theater produced mainly 2 reactions from those in the audience

Either one of outright revulsion or out loud laughter

...I'm with Arch on this one and not a single a thing about it appeals to me or the lifestyle.
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Old 01-03-2006, 07:59 PM   #32
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Many romantic writers feel compelled to write the proverbial unrequitted love novel, screenplay, ect. This aspect of love, an icon for years in European literature, maybe because the royals were so spoiled they had to think up worries, has always perplexed me.
It goes back farther than that... Forbidden love is one of the oldest stories in writing. It's the same story over and over and over, Romeo & Juliet, West Side Story, bla, bla, bla...

The funny thing is that critics who claim to be so well versed in the art never seem to mention that this is pretty much the same old story, same old movie, just different characters, different scenery, and an occasional shock value.

I don't fault the writers for picking the story line... One of my literature professors in college said that nothing new has been written since Plato. I just think it's funny how everyone falls all over themselves about a story that we all already know.
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Old 01-03-2006, 08:01 PM   #33
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And I guess American Beauty was quite similar to my hypothetical.....and it cleaned house at the Oscars.

We need to have compassion on all of the baby boomers who fall for their daughters' cheerleader friends.
That's kind of ironic that you mentioned American Beauty. At the end we learn that the character in the film who was violently anti-gay turns out to be gay himself.

Hmmmmm.........
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Old 01-03-2006, 08:26 PM   #34
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oh you people....

forbidden love is always a new and refreshing story because it actually happens to us as human beings. just because the story may be rebundled and given a new twist doesnt discount the message portrayed.

i personally found the movie intellectually and emotionally stirring as i pondered certain situations in my mind and in my heart following the movie. ive learned today that this site is not only frequented by unapologetic racists such as grape, it receives action from homophobes who are ignorant to the daily struggles some homosexuals face.

sad really....

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Old 01-03-2006, 08:41 PM   #35
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I'm not bagging on the movie, I haven't seen it. I just think it's funny how excited people get over "yet another" movie about forbidden love.

It's kind of like being excited about a movie where Tom Cruise plays an [insert exciting thing here] with a bad attitude and a past which haunts him.

It's been done. It might have been done very well this time, but it's not like somebody invented fire.
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Old 01-03-2006, 08:56 PM   #36
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Many romantic writers feel compelled to write the proverbial unrequitted love novel, screenplay, ect. This aspect of love, an icon for years in European literature, maybe because the royals were so spoiled they had to think up worries, has always perplexed me.
It goes back farther than that... Forbidden love is one of the oldest stories in writing. It's the same story over and over and over, Romeo & Juliet, West Side Story, bla, bla, bla...

The funny thing is that critics who claim to be so well versed in the art never seem to mention that this is pretty much the same old story, same old movie, just different characters, different scenery, and an occasional shock value.

I don't fault the writers for picking the story line... One of my literature professors in college said that nothing new has been written since Plato. I just think it's funny how everyone falls all over themselves about a story that we all already know.
That's perhaps why art bores me often, nothing new, just a newer, spiffier medium now and then.

It is interesting to travel. After a while, all the trinkets one buys for friends and family look the same.

You have t-shirts from such land, usually made in China.

You some expensive clothing, designed in France or Italy, fabricated in China and labeled in said country.

You have some jewelry, including maybe one local, indigenous precious item.

You have funny looking old stuff from pre-explosive warrior days.

You traditional dress nobody wears.

And then you have lots of other stuff you can buy at home. Anything truly of any worth from said land is in a museum unlawful for transport or in some rich guy's home or loft.


Life has already been lived, it's just we humans take most of our lives to learn what's already been learned to find out there's nothing new, just stuff new to us.
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Old 01-03-2006, 11:24 PM   #37
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You guys are really over-analyzing this thing. Your distaste for this movie has nothing to do with rehashed stories of forbidden love. You don't dislike this movie because the themes have already been explored ad nauseum. You dislike the movie because it portrays gay people sympathetically. It's as simple as that.
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Old 01-03-2006, 11:36 PM   #38
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No I thought it showed cowboys humping, so I asked if there were anything intellectually appealing.

Fuzzy came up with some tired themes which I usually won't go see anyhow, even it doesn't invovle homosexuality.

I don't want to see men hump.

I don't want to see men kiss on the lips.

I don't want to see men express sexual attraction for one another.

All of that sickens me and appals me. I'd rather see a guy do a 100 women in a night than two guys do it once. And no I don't watch porn and have no desire to do so.

Yet, at the urging of my wife, I will watch a chick flick, because I like my wife, not because those films necessarily appeal to me.

It sounds mostly like a chick flick built for gay men. Not my speed.
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You guys are really over-analyzing this thing. Your distaste for this movie has nothing to do with rehashed stories of forbidden love. You don't dislike this movie because the themes have already been explored ad nauseum. You dislike the movie because it portrays gay people sympathetically. It's as simple as that.
I never said I don't like the movie. I haven't seen the movie... For some reason it's not playing here in rural Idaho... hmmm...

It might be a great movie but I just think all of the hype about how it is a "groundbreaking" film is kind of a joke. If it is groundbreaking because it deals with gay men, they're a little late. If it is groundbreaking because it deals with forbidden love, they're WAY late.

It might be a great film. It might be the best film of the year, I just think the hype is funny. This is a film we've all seen.
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Old 01-03-2006, 11:55 PM   #40
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something I haven't seen:
Ms. Anne "other side of heaven" hathaway showing her pecho and having that scene be the best naked scene of 2005.

but as my ex'd dad used to say: "If you've seen one, you've seen them both."
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