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jay santos · 07-21-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

This may be the silliest thing I've ever read in the New Yorker (which is saying a lot):

"When Ledger wields a knife, he is thoroughly terrifying (do not, despite the PG-13 rating, bring the children), and, as you’re watching him, you can’t help wondering—in a response that admittedly lies outside film criticism—how badly he messed himself up in order to play the role this way. His performance is a heroic, unsettling final act: this young actor looked into the abyss."

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critic..._cinema_denby/

"This young actor looked into the abyss"? Good Lord. We're not talking about Keats or Poe or even Malcolm McDowell. We're talking about a Batman film, and Heath Ledger.

Ironically, Denby goes on to say that notwithstanding Ledger's virtuoso performance the film as a whole sucks.

Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous. He's a great villian. But he's more of a fun, cool villian not someone that's going to give you nightmares.

jay santos · 07-21-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

Saying it sucks might be taking it a stitch far. But I agree the jaunt out to Hong Kong was pointless, the death of Rachel seemed glossed over, and the movie had too many climaxes. When the end came it seemed truly ... well .... anti-climactic.

i thought the jaunt to Hong Kong was great. Took them out of their normal setting, quick and to the point.

i do agree the death of Rachel was not done well. We can't even figure out if he let her die on purpose or not. That's way too important of a point to not nail down better. And yes too long and too many climaxes. That said, extremely entertaining picture.

DrumNFeather · 07-21-2008, 08:04 PM

One guy in our showing had 3 kids there under 5.

Tex · 07-21-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

i thought the jaunt to Hong Kong was great. Took them out of their normal setting, quick and to the point.

It may have been fun and aesthetically pleasing, but it didn't really advance the plot much. Could've easily done without it and still told the story.

il Padrino Ute · 07-21-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by YOhio

IPU wasn't impressed with Heath's performance in BBM. He wanted a real homosexual.

No, it was his performance in 10 things I hate about the movie my wife made me see.

Hsaru · 07-22-2008, 03:49 AM

Il pad remove the pole shoved up your ass and enjoy life a little.

pelagius · 07-22-2008, 05:22 AM

I know I am in the distinct minority but I actually agree with Danby: it sucked. The last half an hour I kept hoping the joker would kill me.

Gidget · 07-22-2008, 05:37 AM

Just adding my two cents (for what it's worth on the 5th page of this thread). I liked the movie a lot. I mean this is a comic book movie, helllooooooo, it is WAY better and has a lot more depth than the likes of Spiderman, X-men, Hulk, etc. I liked Batman Begins a lot as well. I am really looking forward to where this series goes and I like that it is a lot darker than the prior Batman series.

ute4ever · 07-22-2008, 08:32 PM

I don't know if this has been posted previously, but I was surprised that the film was not an R due to all of the carnage and torture, including children being held at gunpoint. 10 years ago it would have been an R.

TripletDaddy · 07-22-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ute4ever

I don't know if this has been posted previously, but I was surprised that the film was not an R due to all of the carnage and torture, including children being held at gunpoint. 10 years ago it would have been an R.

Ever since we had our kids, I do not deal well with implied/actual violence towards children, as portrayed in media.

Not saying that I was fine with it before, but I knew it was just a movie. Now even in a movie it makes me very sad, almost to tears. I hated that scene that ute is describing.

That story yesterday about the guy who left his baby in the car to go see Batman also really distracted me for awhile. It was hard to read and I wanted to get it out of my head quickly. Beating your kids, leaving them in cars or gas stations, telling them that you dont want them, screaming at them or calling them names.....all these things are beyond me (not trying to spark up the spanking debate, btw).

I guess I get overly emotional at the thought of someone hurting my kids. It is just a movie, so I should probably lighten up Francis, but for whatever reason, I can't.

07-22-2008, 05:37 AM	#48
Gidget Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: With Surfah Posts: 329	Just adding my two cents (for what it's worth on the 5th page of this thread). I liked the movie a lot. I mean this is a comic book movie, helllooooooo, it is WAY better and has a lot more depth than the likes of Spiderman, X-men, Hulk, etc. I liked Batman Begins a lot as well. I am really looking forward to where this series goes and I like that it is a lot darker than the prior Batman series. __________________ I am a philosophical Goldilocks, always looking for something neither too big nor too small, neither too hot nor too cold, something jussssst right. I'll send you a card from purgatory. - PaloAltoCougar

07-21-2008, 08:04 PM	#43
DrumNFeather Active LDS Ute Fan Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nantucket : ) Posts: 2,566	One guy in our showing had 3 kids there under 5.

07-22-2008, 03:49 AM	#46
Hsaru Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 108	Il pad remove the pole shoved up your ass and enjoy life a little.

07-22-2008, 05:22 AM	#47
pelagius Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,431	I know I am in the distinct minority but I actually agree with Danby: it sucked. The last half an hour I kept hoping the joker would kill me.

07-22-2008, 08:32 PM	#49
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	I don't know if this has been posted previously, but I was surprised that the film was not an R due to all of the carnage and torture, including children being held at gunpoint. 10 years ago it would have been an R.