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Old 05-10-2007, 04:01 PM   #1
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God didn't want the Gospel preached to the Gentiles for a long period of time. Is God racist?
How do you know that was God's intent and not a product of an Israelite sense of superiority over their Gentile neighbors? God intervened with Peter to take the message beyond Israel. Were Gentiles any less worth saving before the revelation?

I think it's more tortured to accept that God had his whims and feels no need to explain than to accept that man is imperfect and that imperfection can stand in the way of God's designs on a temporary basis.
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Old 05-10-2007, 04:08 PM   #2
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How do you know that was God's intent and not a product of an Israelite sense of superiority over their Gentile neighbors? God intervened with Peter to take the message beyond Israel. Were Gentiles any less worth saving before the revelation?

I think it's more tortured to accept that God had his whims and feels no need to explain than to accept that man is imperfect and that imperfection can stand in the way of God's designs on a temporary basis.
The Jews lost the ability to hold the Melchizidek Priesthood for over 1,000 years because of a few bad apples out in the wilderness that had a bad smelting accident whilst Moses was off on a business trip.

They didn't receive any of the temple blessings as we currently understand them, at least in part because they didn't have the priesthood keys to administer in the ordinances thereof.
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The Jews lost the ability to hold the Melchizidek Priesthood for over 1,000 years because of a few bad apples out in the wilderness that had a bad smelting accident whilst Moses was off on a business trip.

They didn't receive any of the temple blessings as we currently understand them, at least in part because they didn't have the priesthood keys to administer in the ordinances thereof.
I'm glad that God doesn't punish men for other's transgressions anymore. It would have sucked to live back then.
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I'm glad that God doesn't punish men for other's transgressions anymore. It would have sucked to live back then.
Regarding this punishment for others' transgressions.

We most definitely are "punished" for Adam's trangression. How? Because we all are subject to death. If Adam hadn't transgressed, he wouldn't have been subject and neither would we. (Then again, we wouldn't be here to begin with.)

We are most definitely not ultimately punished for Adam's transgression because Christ died for all mankind that all of us will be resurrected.

Furthermore, the institution of infant baptism was based on the heretical notion that Adam's transgression caused children to be sinful and so they had to be baptized as soon as possible before they died or they would be doomed to Hell.


If you truly understand the Plan of Salvation, the lack of Melchizedek Priesthood for the Jews, priesthood for blacks and so on and so forth were and are not impediments standing in the way of their eternal salvation; they were merely restrictions on the blessings they could receive in this life and the level of participation they could have in God's church. There's an important difference between the two.

To invoke the 2nd Article of Faith is simply erroneous.

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Regarding this punishment for others' transgressions.

We most definitely are "punished" for Adam's trangression. How? Because we all are subject to death. If Adam hadn't transgressed, he wouldn't have been subject and neither would we. (Then again, we wouldn't be here to begin with.)

We are most definitely not ultimately punished for Adam's transgression because Christ died for all mankind that all of us will be resurrected.

Furthermore, the institution of infant baptism was based on the heretical notion that Adam's transgression cause children to be sinful and so they had to be baptized as soon as possible before they died or they would be doomed to Hell.


If you truly understand the Plan of Salvation, the lack of Melchizedek Priesthood for the Jews, priesthood for blacks and so on and so forth were and are not impediments standing in the way of their eternal salvation; they were merely restrictions on the blessings they could receive in this life and the level of participation they could have in God's church. There's an important difference between the two.

To invoke the 2nd Article of Faith is simply erroneous.
I can certainly understand the need to believe that God will make everything right in the next life. Whether or not that is erroneous, I'm not sure. I hope it's true though. I'll take fickle in this life for fairness in the next. If the scriptures are to be believed, it doesn't look good.
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