Rusty silver linings

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

we're not talking about Harry Reid, Arch.

So only Mormons who fit the definition to prove the case count?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

we're not talking about Harry Reid, Arch.

And we're not talking about the Udalls of Arizona, or Shumways, or any other of a host of pragmatic political Mormons who do not use religion in politics.

Some segment of mindless Mormons think and vote like the Religious Right nazis, but they don't function within the operative networks of those groups and don't belong to the organization raising money for those groups. If Mormon wackos are a discrete group.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by Archaea

So only Mormons who fit the definition to prove the case count?

Archaea, it is sometimes difficult to believe that you construct arguments for a living.

I suggested that the Mormon church is part of the voting block known as the religious right.

And you respond, "No it's not. What about Harry Reid?"

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

Archaea, it is sometimes difficult to believe that you construct arguments for a living.

I suggested that the Mormon church is part of the voting block known as the religious right.

And you respond, "No it's not. What about Harry Reid?"

My mistake, I didn't understand you focused upon the organizational leadership. To some mitigated degree I understand your point. Though I only grudgingly admit our leadership has any affiliation with the wackos of the Religious Right. Damn them.

[landpoke]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

That's my hope. This is why I believed that for the sake of the GOP, Obama had to win. The short-term loss of an administration provides the opportunity for a long-term win for the party. But in order for the long-term win to be realized, the party leadership has to realize the significance of this loss -- this party's platform is no longer structurally sound. A majority of Americans will no longer stand for or on a platform that combines divisive social issues with bellicose foreign policy and egregious fiscal mismanagement.

But on the other hand, change will be difficult. If the party drops the religiously-motivated social rhetoric, it risks losing the voting bloc that has perhaps singlehandedly kept the party viable. To end its love affair with fiscal mismanagement, it will have to stop the overindulgent defense spending and stop offering fake tax cuts; and in the case of the former, the party loses its identity (that is, its identity outside of the religious right), and with the latter, it loses its most effective selling point.

The fact that Palin -- the embodiment of compassionate-conservative religious-right politics -- is still being heralded as "the rising star" of the party, makes me wonder whether the party is really going to be willing to reform.

Wait, what? You're a Republican?

I'm getting dizzy.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by landpoke

Wait, what? You're a Republican?

Like karma, I'm ever the chameleon.

[landpoke]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

Like karma, I'm ever the chameleon.

Mother^&*%$#. Now I've got that song and assface Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA" running in constant rotation in my head.

Red gold and green, red gold and greeeeeen.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by landpoke

Mother^&*%$#. Now I've got that song and assface Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA" running in constant rotation in my head.

now that's a bad combination right there.

Just make sure you don't risk exposure to la vida loca or mambo #5 today. Either one as an addition to your current medley would almost certainly be lethal.

[minn_stat]

Originally Posted by Tex

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6. Four senate races still unresolved, with the R's ahead in all of them. There's a decent outside chance that those idiots in Minnesota may not have elected the worst Senate candidate in a century.
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Hey! We ain't no idiots, no ways, no hows!

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Tex

5. Pro-marriage passes in AZ and FL, and probably CA, two of which went blue. That suggests we are still very much a socially conservative country.

I just read that in Florida, the initiative had to garner 60% in order to pass (it got 62%). Wow, that just makes the victory all the more impressive.