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Old 12-12-2007, 04:01 PM   #31
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You know what? When and IF the time comes, I'll make the moral choice, but at least then it won't be in some intellectual vacuum.

I won't kill someone to save $0.95 on a Hogi Yogi. I will kill someone if it saves 1,000,000 lives. What happens in between the two is best dealt with on a case by case basis.
You have a crystal ball that allows you to connect cause and effect?

You deal with risk and odds. What odds does it take for you to murder?
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:02 PM   #32
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You have a crystal ball that allows you to connect cause and effect?

You deal with risk and odds. What odds does it take for you to murder?
So far, I haven't killed anyone, so I haven't encountered sufficiently favorable odds yet.

Killing you would just spawn more like you that would in turn still endanger countless others with similar stupidity.
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:03 PM   #33
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The principle is I will not cheat on my wife. If I am in a room full of Redskin cheerleaders, all nekid, that principle doesn't change.
That's not history, that's fantasy.
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:03 PM   #34
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You are having a hard time being rational. What world do you live in? I gather you have faced these choices or think you are likely to do so? Give me a break.

You are apparently claiming that you would never, under any circumstance, treat any prisoiner in any manner that you think might be incosistent with the way you would expect GBH to treat them.

I don't beleive you, if this is your position, as it is entiorely inconcistent eith your personality as experssed on this board.

For me, if it was persoanl, I am not sure how far I would go. I like to think I would act like Christ, but I am not sure if I would or not. As to a policy for our government, I whleheartedly endorse ano torture policy.

Rather than hurl invective and insult, why don't you educate me? What history are yout alking about?
Despite the creekster like spellings in this post, I agree.

I do not believe I'd personally do too much, as I do not enjoy hurting people. It makes me sick, but when the juices are flowing and my family is in danger, I could see myself pummeling somebody.

I also do not see Mike as a meek and mild, innocent lamb who would stand by without ire. He is knowledgeable in the use of guns, he breaks noses during meaningless basketball games, he has psychological prowess, he kickboxes, he is of the sprinter mentality, and he is more liberal in LDS religiosity, so I see nothing as a predictor that Mike would be mild.

Creek and I might punch or kick somebody, if worrying about legal liability didn't stop us. But Mike would know where he could punch, kick, stab or slice in order to cause the most pain.
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:05 PM   #35
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You have a crystal ball that allows you to connect cause and effect?

You deal with risk and odds. What odds does it take for you to murder?
DO you? You are all over the place here. WHat odds does it take for you to murder, or waterboard?
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I'm arguing about what should be done.

Not about where we fail to do what we should do.

The principle is I will not cheat on my wife. If I am in a room full of Redskin cheerleaders, all nekid, that principle doesn't change.

If in the light of day, you can't formulate what is right, then you will fail when the darkness comes.
Yeah but if you let yourself get into a room filled with nekid cheerleaders, you've already forgotten the principle.
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Would you all who would do anything to save your family rape a 6 year old girl to save your family?
I've told God I wouldn't rape a 6-year-old girl for him. But would I bang on 18-year-old hottie to save my family? Who wouldn't.
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As I suspected, many Mormons are more offended by the use of the word "shit" than they are torture of persons in custody.
I am not offended at all. The only thing more amusing than your hypocrisy and feigned charity for all man is your childlike refusal to admit such.

You have never been good at the Socratic method. Not here, not on CB. It isn't your strength because you are so obviously insincere.

Perhaps it is time for you to leave here and start your own website.
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We all have choices. But we face consequences.

Sure, murder and rape to save your family. But don't expect that you will be spared punishment, both temporal and eternal.

I don't think it is a very good bargain, myself, to trade this earth for the eternities.

But be my guest.
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We all have choices. But we face consequences.

Sure, murder and rape to save your family. But don't expect that you will be spared punishment, both temporal and eternal.

I don't think it is a very good bargain, myself, to trade this earth for the eternities.

But be my guest.
You seem ot be arguing against some position that no one here is taking. TO whom is this directed?
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