Read this story, and I cannot believe how dishonest some are.

[Black Diamond Bay]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

you believe him, that it was parts for his bike?

wow.

Well why else would he take a purple bike?

If he was really just out to snatch a bike you'd think he'd at least pick one that was a slightly more masculine color. Not to mention, she bought it at Shopko. If you're going to steal a bike why on earth would you steal a purple Shopko bike?

We still have no idea what kind of condition that bike was in.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Black Diamond Bay

Well why else would he take a purple bike?

If he was really just out to snatch a bike you'd think he'd at least pick one that was a slightly more masculine color. Not to mention, she bought it at Shopko. If you're going to steal a bike why on earth would you steal a purple Shopko bike?

Not to mention we still have no idea what kind of condition that bike was in.

thieves steal all kinds of things. He took it for his gain, period. He didn't take it to donate to an orphanage. He took it so HE would get ahead, at the EXPENSE of another person.

He is a POS, and this is not an isolated case. I would serve a search warrant and look for other stolen things in his house.

I see no one has taken me up on my bet about future crimes.

[Black Diamond Bay]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

thieves steal all kinds of things. He took it for his gain, period. He didn't take it to donate to an orphanage. He took it so HE would get ahead, at the EXPENSE of another person.

He is a POS, and this is not an isolated case. I would serve a search warrant and look for other stolen things in his house.

I see no one has taken me up on my bet about future crimes.

Oh there's no way I would take that bet. If he wasn't messed up before I guarantee this little incident has done a number on him. How would you ever live with yourself knowing that they might have found her in time if you hadn't snatched her bike? I hope for his sake they determine that she died on impact.

Now he's a serial thief? How could you possibly know that from reading ONE newspaper article?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Black Diamond Bay

Oh there's no way I would take that bet. If he wasn't messed up before I guarantee this little incident has done a number on him. How would you ever live with yourself knowing that they might have found her in time if you hadn't snatched her bike? I hope for his sake they determine that she died on impact.

Now he's a serial thief? How could you possibly know that from reading ONE newspaper article?

He was carrying wire cutters. That's how I know.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Lost Student

My speculation is that the kids brought the bike back only because they realized that it was connected to a missing person; they feared that they would appear to be involved in the girl's disappearance if their theft was discovered three months later.

When they cut the lock on another person's bike, they knew they were stealing.

This is the most logical conclusion.

"Oh shoot, we're going to get it for murder."

They stole in all likelihood and it wasn't a complete beater bike.

[Black Diamond Bay]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

He was carrying wire cutters. That's how I know.

My cousin carries wire cutters in his car, and I'm positive that he's not out stealing stuff. I know he carries them because we had to use them to repair a barbed wire fence that we shot up one time. The farmer came out and freaked out at us about it and so my cousin rifled around in his gear, produced wire cutters. We used them to lop off a piece of barbed wire from an older collapsed fence and patch the portion of the fence that we had broken.

I honestly have no idea why he had wire cutters in his truck, but it didn't really strike me as all that unusual at the time. He's always has a ton of tools with him.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

He is a POS, and this is not an isolated case. I would serve a search warrant and look for other stolen things in his house.

Originally Posted by Archaea

If Indy, Tex and Lingo were in a bishopric, you'd probably see a high number of excommunications.

If SIEQ, SoCal and Santos were, we'd probably see more informal discipline and formal probations.

Accepting Arch's ridiculous premise for argument's sake, I guess that puts Mike Waters solidly in the "high number of exommunications" category.

Welcome to world of fire and brimstone, Mike. Glad to have you on board.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Tex

Accepting Arch's ridiculous premise for argument's sake, I guess that puts Mike Waters solidly in the "high number of exommunications" category.

Welcome to world of fire and brimstone, Mike. Glad to have you on board.

You're not a cyclist so you wouldn't understand. A bike is holy which may not be touched or besmirched except by its owner. Any desecrator deserves life imprisonment or death or worse.

However, in reality, the real crime perpetrated is the potential that stealing the evidence may have had upon the investigation into the disappearance of the student. A stolen bike should probably not be prosecuted, unless it was my bike. And then they should nuke the sucker.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Black Diamond Bay

My cousin carries wire cutters in his car, and I'm positive that he's not out stealing stuff. I know he carries them because we had to use them to repair a barbed wire fence that we shot up one time. The farmer came out and freaked out at us about it and so my cousin rifled around in his gear, produced wire cutters. We used them to lop off a piece of barbed wire from an older collapsed fence and patch the portion of the fence that we had broken.

I honestly have no idea why he had wire cutters in his truck, but it didn't really strike me as all that unusual at the time. He's always has a ton of tools with him.

I would be very surprised if they cut through a bike lock with your run-of-the-mill wire cutters. Unless it was the dead of night and they had a lot of time to pull it off. More likely that it was a set of bolt cutters.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Tex

Accepting Arch's ridiculous premise for argument's sake, I guess that puts Mike Waters solidly in the "high number of exommunications" category.

Welcome to world of fire and brimstone, Mike. Glad to have you on board.

For you to equate the two issues implies that you see excommunication as a punishment or form of retribution doled out to unrepentant guilty suckers. Thus contradicting your earlier stance (a gentle act of love).