07-16-2008, 03:51 AM | #31 |
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I'm starting to think SeattleUte would be a Mullah bishop: an intolerant hardliner.
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07-16-2008, 01:02 PM | #32 |
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07-16-2008, 01:05 PM | #33 | |
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No one disagrees that if there's any evidence that she did this on purpose, that this happens regularly, etc that it's abuse/neglect and she should be criminally prosecuted. Of course she understands the consequences of leaving a kid in a hot car, just like the guy who accidentally runs over his child also understands the consequences of running a tire over his child's head. That doesn't make either abuse or neglect on its own. |
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07-16-2008, 03:27 PM | #34 | |
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Even if she was ignorant of the lethal consequences she was callous of her child's personal comfort. How long would she sit in a closed car in 100 degree temporature? She abused the child. For that matter, no one should leave their small child in the car for long periods unsupervised in perfect weather. The law is on my side. You and others here who disagree wiht me are on the lunatic fringe. I'm glad you're not a lawyer because your abilty to analogize sucks. You'd probably not do so well on IQ tests either. The point isn't that it was necessarily premeditated murder. The point is she was guilty of gross neglect, like a reckless driver. This board sure has cured me of any notion doctors are gods. They say the dumbest things sometimes, even about human health.
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What the hell did I have to say about human health? Did I actually say this was healthy for kids? I was arguing where the standard for neglect lies, not whether it good for your kids to bake them in the car. Surely, your brilliant analytical skills and high IQ could grasp that. But maybe you work on a whole different level that dumb ol' me just can't quite understand. My personal experience in raising children, as well as the experience of a number of others both on and off this board, would argue for some leniency here, as many of us have made mistakes that, in the wrong set of circumstances, may have been lethal. I would point out that the legal system, set up by your fellow brilliant attorneys, with their high IQs and brilliant "analogization" skills, with much more information than either of us have, has agreed with me. But maybe they too represent the "lunatic fringe". Would not be the first time I've considered lawyers to be in that group. I would guarantee that I spend far more time working with cases of true abuse and neglect than you do. But really, I'm happy to hear the opinions of the ivory tower, with your two-income family, your nanny, and your chef-prepared meals, of what the standard for parenting should be. So preach on... Last edited by ERCougar; 07-16-2008 at 04:18 PM. |
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You cut me to the quick, ER.
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This statement being true I am having a hard time understanding what the dispute here is all about.
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