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Solon · 07-06-2008, 08:57 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/wo...t/06stone.html

A stone with ink writing that dates from around the time of Jesus (give or take a hundred years). It might or might not (text is still being critically examined) mention a messiah and resurrection.

I'll be interested to read these publications when they become more widely available in English.

MikeWaters · 07-06-2008, 09:42 PM

From what I read, there is not chain of custody, so I am deeply skeptical as to its authencity.

It was mentioned in fast and testimony meeting today.

Solon · 07-07-2008, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

From what I read, there is not chain of custody, so I am deeply skeptical as to its authencity.

It was mentioned in fast and testimony meeting today.

Yeah. It's a looted . . err . . privately owned piece. I'm sure that time and scholarship will reveal if it's been forged, or if its text has even been read correctly.

SeattleUte · 07-07-2008, 04:56 AM

If they determine it contains any explicit reference to Jesus' deeds or events as recorded in the NT I guarantee it's a forgery. I guarantee it. 100%.

Cali Coug · 07-07-2008, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

If they determine it contains any explicit reference to Jesus' deeds or events as recorded in the NT I guarantee it's a forgery. I guarantee it. 100%.

It would be a bummer for you if it did.

SeattleUte · 07-07-2008, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

It would be a bummer for you if it did.

I finally scanned the linked article. Apparently if the stone is legitimate it would only cast doubt on the Christ story, since it would show that a resurrection of the Messiah (after three days) story had been part of the Jewish tradition for decades before Christ was born. As we've seen here, the Pentateuch itself provides a matrix for the NT.

Solon · 07-07-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I finally scanned the linked article. Apparently if the stone is legitimate it would only cast doubt on the Christ story, since it would show that a resurrection of the Messiah (after three days) story had been part of the Jewish tradition for decades before Christ was born. As we've seen here, the Pentateuch itself provides a matrix for the NT.

Some will use the story to demonstrate the Jesus story is just another incarnation of a common folk tale. Others will claim that the story of Jesus is a fulfillment of prophecy, prophecy as recorded on this stone (if it proves legitimate).

MikeWaters · 07-07-2008, 12:16 PM

SU knew Jesus was a fraud after he read Isaiah....

The stretching by some Jews in these reports tells me that yes, Judaism is a dying religion.

07-06-2008, 08:57 PM	#1
Solon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Happy Valley, PA Posts: 1,866	Interesting find from Israel http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/wo...t/06stone.html A stone with ink writing that dates from around the time of Jesus (give or take a hundred years). It might or might not (text is still being critically examined) mention a messiah and resurrection. I'll be interested to read these publications when they become more widely available in English. __________________ I hope for nothing. I fear nothing. I am free. - Epitaph of Nikos Kazantzakis (1883-1957)

07-07-2008, 04:56 AM	#4
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	If they determine it contains any explicit reference to Jesus' deeds or events as recorded in the NT I guarantee it's a forgery. I guarantee it. 100%. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

07-06-2008, 09:42 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	From what I read, there is not chain of custody, so I am deeply skeptical as to its authencity. It was mentioned in fast and testimony meeting today.

07-07-2008, 12:16 PM	#8
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	SU knew Jesus was a fraud after he read Isaiah.... The stretching by some Jews in these reports tells me that yes, Judaism is a dying religion.