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Old 12-16-2005, 04:29 AM   #11
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I do find it disturbing that so many Mormon Republicans think the party is ordained of God. That makes having a rational discussion on any political topic very difficult.
Yes indeed, it gets pretty old. But you gotta admit, it makes for some pretty entertaining irrational discussions from time to time.
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Old 12-16-2005, 05:34 AM   #12
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I do find it disturbing that so many Mormon Republicans think the party is ordained of God.
Silly overstatement. The simple fact is that there are positions taken by the Democratic party that simply cannot be reconciled with LDS teachings. That doesn't make the Republican party ordained of God, but merely the lesser of two evils.
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Old 12-16-2005, 06:26 AM   #13
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I do find it disturbing that so many Mormon Republicans think the party is ordained of God.
I feel the same way. I have voted Republican for most of my life but the Neocons have changed the party so much I just don't feel like I can identify with it anymore.

It seems like it's all about bad or worse these days. On one side I find a candidate I can't support supports an "immoral" viewpoint on abortion or gay marriage. On the other side I've got a guy I can't support because he's got an equally evil attitude toward the poor, healthcare and other "moral" issues.
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Old 12-16-2005, 02:30 PM   #14
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The simple fact is that there are positions taken by the Democratic party that simply cannot be reconciled with LDS teachings.
Therefore, you can't be a good Mormon and a democrat at the same time, right? You fall into that camp?
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Old 12-16-2005, 02:32 PM   #15
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The simple fact is that there are positions taken by the Democratic party that simply cannot be reconciled with LDS teachings.
Therefore, you can't be a good Mormon and a democrat at the same time, right? You fall into that camp?
Yeah, that's exactly what I said. :roll:
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Old 12-16-2005, 02:44 PM   #16
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Silly overstatement. The simple fact is that there are positions taken by the Democratic party that simply cannot be reconciled with LDS teachings. That doesn't make the Republican party ordained of God, but merely the lesser of two evils.
I agree with this.

Also, way to characterize most LDS people as racist back in the 60's. That was class.
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Silly overstatement. The simple fact is that there are positions taken by the Democratic party that simply cannot be reconciled with LDS teachings. That doesn't make the Republican party ordained of God, but merely the lesser of two evils.
I agree with this.

Also, way to characterize most LDS people as racist back in the 60's. That was class.
i try to figure out what issues that do not allow you to reconcile yourself as a member and be a democrat...

abortion? church is pro-choice last time i checked....

redistribution of wealth in the form of social programs? the church has the best welfare program in the world....

what issues cause one not to be a democrat and a member?

gay marriage might be the only one i can think of. and not the whole democratic party believes in gay marriage.
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Old 12-16-2005, 03:59 PM   #18
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Also, way to characterize most LDS people as racist back in the 60's. That was class.
Sorry, but this just demonstrates your ignorance. Were you even around in the 60's? I was. The LDS culture was very racist.
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Old 12-16-2005, 04:02 PM   #19
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My grandparents, bless their hearts, would probably be considered racists based simply on what they say. It was the cultre then.
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Also, way to characterize most LDS people as racist back in the 60's. That was class.
Sorry, but this just demonstrates your ignorance. Were you even around in the 60's? I was. The LDS culture was very racist.
The LDS culture, or was it just American culture?
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