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Old 04-16-2007, 03:08 AM   #21
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I had all but forgotten about those "designer denim" articles and debates.
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Old 04-16-2007, 03:09 AM   #22
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Quick response from the BYU admin. 3 years later.

Man, this stuff is why I don't miss BYU. Pharisees had nothing on BYU.
I was also shocked and appalled by that.
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You know these pseudo-BYUs that they are planning, like that Virginian college.

We should start our own. A mullah-free version. And with a strong emphasis on sports. We'll start with basketball of course. Easier to get on the map.
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You know these pseudo-BYUs that they are planning, like that Virginian college.

We should start our own. A mullah-free version. And with a strong emphasis on sports. We'll start with basketball of course. Easier to get on the map.
It's impossible to have a university without mullah's. Pick your poison, left-wing fascists or right-wing fascists.
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Old 04-16-2007, 03:26 AM   #25
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It's impossible to have a university without mullah's. Pick your poison, left-wing fascists or right-wing fascists.
They're called bureaucrats, fascists all the same.
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:54 AM   #26
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I am just glad Holland was clear about women wearing safety pins in their ears, i was a little confused and needed a proper ruling on that one.
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Old 04-16-2007, 06:34 AM   #27
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Ah yes, the "men must wear socks" rule.

A mission companion of mine got in trouble with the Honor Code gestapo for taking his socks off when he while he was taking a test in the testing center.

He got in more trouble with the HC folks when he asked if they understood that "leg hair really isn't the extension of pubic hair, right?"
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:27 PM   #28
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School officials became increasingly committed to BYU's dress and grooming standards in 1975 when their legality was challenged by the U. S. Department of Health, Education and Welfare. "We believe that differences in dress and grooming of men and women are proper expressions of God-given differences in the sexes," President Oaks explained, vowing that the school would "not be prescribed into a unisex standard of appearance" (DU, 17 Oct. 1975). By the end of the decade, the university's standards had broadened to include explicit prohibitions against the "no-bra look," shirts without sleeves, tank tops, and, for men, going without socks. A statement in the dress code forbidding women from wearing "levis" met with opposition in 1978 from the Levi Strauss Company. Administrators consequently substituted the word "jeans" for "levis." Three months later in November 1978, a coed who was refused entrance to the BYU testing center because she was "wearing pants of denim material" left the center, removed her pants, buttoned up her overcoat, and was admitted, pantless, without question. In a letter to the editor of the Universe, she added, "There is something strangely perverse and incongruous about a dress code which demands that a girl dressed in nice denim pants [be] rejected from a campus facility, while a girl in underpants and a coat is acceptable. Is it that vital that we expose the lower half of our legs?" (DU, 14 Nov. 1978). This event, which received national attention, may have contributed to BYU's eventual capitulation on the jeans issue less than three years later. Addressing students in the fall of 1981, President Jeffrey Holland suggested that modesty and cleanliness should "govern women's dress on the campus rather than endless debate as to whether a `designer jean' is also a slack, or whether the fabric is cotton, polyester, or denim, or whether it is colored red, white, or blue." Holland later oversaw additional interpretations of the dress code prohibiting men from wearing earrings and women from wearing safety pins in their ears.
I'm telling you people it was Jan Graham... who was Attorney General of Utah a couple of years ago
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I'm telling you people it was Jan Graham... who was Attorney General of Utah a couple of years ago
Did Ms. Graham use the name A. Lavon Bryan to write the confessing letter to the editor? That's the name given in footnote 47.

A. Lavon Bryan to Editor, DU, 14 Nov. 1978
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