01-02-2008, 03:54 PM | #1 |
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The BYU identity
In spending some time browsing the A&M board, I have come to appreciate the fact that for A&M grads, there really is an unwritten code of conduct and ethics that they expect all "true" Aggies to uphold.
It's a much more pronounced identity than BYU grads have, in terms of this unwritten code. And I'm trying to understand why. Two thoughts: BYU grads have two official arbiters of codes. 1) the church, and 2) the BYU honor code. Neither of which they have any input in. Whereas for A&M fans, this unwritten code is something that must be constantly addressed and hashed out from one generation to the next. I.e. it is a constant source of discussion and teaching, whereas the BYU situation is one of "obey the commandments." Looking at it another way, A&M fans and grads feel like they own A&M, whereas BYU grads and fans have no such feeling. It is very clear who owns BYU, and it is very clear who makes decisions, and it is very clear that there is no desire to understand its graduates. Lack of vision at BYU among the Board of Trustees and Presidents has really hurt it. |
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However, I think the folks do like money and are stuck between a rock and a hard place as sports is a great vehicle to money, but how to go get it has them confused a bit. This might really explain the downscheduling trend, IMO. It might be the first instance where Bronco is being ordered to do something for the greater good of the institution.
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01-02-2008, 05:13 PM | #5 | |
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This goes on at other institutions too. The academic world at Michigan isn't thrilled at the status the academic department has. However, leaders know the power of the alumni and their wallets. BYU has another more powerful master. The church. You are a member of the church first and an alumni second. To question your alma matter is to question the church and therefor God. You think I am wrong. Question something BYU does in a robust way on Cougarboard. |
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I think BYU alumni struggle to be attached to the University because the University doesn't need, want, or like their input. Why would they need input when they have a BOT that will just ask God?
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01-02-2008, 05:26 PM | #10 |
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I would think that the feeling of ownership you speak of applies in some ways to all members...which is why, among other things, you get the occasional "ALUF" speaking out against some horrendous action done by the university or its representatives (like wearing a hat sideways).
At most schools, there is a concept that "my money and my child go to (fill in the blank)." But at BYU, it's more of a "my tithing goes to BYU, so regardless of whether or not I am alumn, or my kid goes there, I should have a say. I suppose it is just the nature of the beast when you have an institution that is or is trying to be an arm of the larger structure (the church), and as such, you have a supporting "member" fan base, rather than an alumni fan base (that supports with its collective pocket book). |
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