Do believers really believe?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Postmodernism isn't a system for handicapping, forgiving or rationalizing logical gaps, absurdities or even patent fraud and self-delusion in organized religious movements.

It's a method of inquiry, that is all. It doesn't really seek to solve any questions but adds more questions.

[UtahDan]

Are we debating what "knowledge" is again?

Tooblue is persuaded by the evidence. He calls that state of being knowledge. Archaea thinks knowledge is too strong a term for when one is persuaded by the evidence.

Does that about sum it up?

"Know" is not the word I would use either, but in the context of our cultural construct I don't begrudge tooblue the use of it. I know what he means. Or if I think he is deluding himself, what of it?

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Archaea

It's a method of inquiry, that is all. It doesn't really seek to solve any questions but adds more questions.

I think it's more of a means of artisitic expression than anything else. Maybe an outlook. At most it's a philosophical perspective. I wouldn't call it an empirical method of inquiry.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I think it's more of a means of artisitic expression than anything else. Maybe an outlook. At most it's a philosophical perspective. I wouldn't call it an empirical method of inquiry.

It's an outlook, and a method or reexamination, but it's not limited to artistic expression, as it often focuses upon the limits of expression.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

Are we debating what "knowledge" is again?

Tooblue is persuaded by the evidence. He calls that state of being knowledge. Archaea thinks knowledge is too strong a term for when one is persuaded by the evidence.

Does that about sum it up?

"Know" is not the word I would use either, but in the context of our cultural construct I don't begrudge tooblue the use of it. I know what he means. Or if I think he is deluding himself, what of it?

I don't begrudge him using it in Church, but when he uses it outside of the friendly confines of the chapel, I find it not useful in cross cultural discussions. You're only asking for confusion in that context.