Is gay marriage

[exUte]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

Y = Yes. Gay marriage is ordained of God.
N = No. Gay marriage is NOT ordained of God.
= I don't care what God thinks.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by exUte

We won't address the role of the Church at this time.

"We" won't?

You're something else, you know that? I know you like to think you carry the light of the Gospel to the board, but some reason I associate you more with 2nd Corinthians 12:7.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by exUte

Y = Yes. Gay marriage is ordained of God.
N = No. Gay marriage is NOT ordained of God.
= I don't care what God thinks.

That's right. UDan is telling God to go to hell. Glad you called him out on that.

[All-American]

You want it? Fine.

I do not believe gay marriage is ordained of God.

I don't believe God approves of people leaving the church, either. Do you want us to legislate against that, too?

If you want to outlaw gay marriage or anything else, you're going to have to come up with a better reason than that.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by All-American

You want it? Fine.

I do not believe gay marriage is ordained of God.

I don't believe God approves of people leaving the church, either. Do you want us to legislate against that, too?

If you want to outlaw gay marriage or anything else, you're going to have to come up with a better reason than that.

Legal marriage and ecclesiastical marriage have never been interchangeable. A few hundred years ago in England, marriages were not recognized as such by the church without parental consent, even though they were legally binding. In the antebellum south, well-treated slaves were treated to wedding ceremonies by ordained ministers, but their marriages were not legally recognized. Today, Catholics can obtain an annulment so that (ecclesiastically speaking) a marriage never existed, yet the couple is still legally recorded as having been married. Muslims in this country often enter into marriages that are recognized by the mosque but not by the state. And in most states, couples cohabitating for an extended period of time enter into common law marriages which not only are not sanctioned by the church, they're expressly forbidden.

The point is, the church really shouldn't care whom the government thinks is or is not married. The church still gets to make its own rules and marry or not marry whomever they wish. That's the great thing about living in America.

[exUte]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

That's right. UDan is telling God to go to hell. Glad you called him out on that.

three options.

Talk about a nut case..........calm down Babs.

[exUte]

Originally Posted by All-American

You want it? Fine.

I do not believe gay marriage is ordained of God.

I don't believe God approves of people leaving the church, either. Do you want us to legislate against that, too?

If you want to outlaw gay marriage or anything else, you're going to have to come up with a better reason than that.

by? It was the legal system that made it a legal and legislative issue. The people had already voted once.

[exUte]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

Legal marriage and ecclesiastical marriage have never been interchangeable. A few hundred years ago in England, marriages were not recognized as such by the church without parental consent, even though they were legally binding. In the antebellum south, well-treated slaves were treated to wedding ceremonies by ordained ministers, but their marriages were not legally recognized. Today, Catholics can obtain an annulment so that (ecclesiastically speaking) a marriage never existed, yet the couple is still legally recorded as having been married. Muslims in this country often enter into marriages that are recognized by the mosque but not by the state. And in most states, couples cohabitating for an extended period of time enter into common law marriages which not only are not sanctioned by the church, they're expressly forbidden.

The point is, the church really shouldn't care whom the government thinks is or is not married. The church still gets to make its own rules and marry or not marry whomever they wish. That's the great thing about living in America.

If you think the gay agenda stops there, fine. LOL

Plus the Church has a right to stand up for moral issues when they see fit. They saw fit. If you want to fight what some might think is counsel from a prophet of God. Go ahead. Apparently you are better informed than the 1st presidency and know better the will of God.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by exUte

Apparently you are better informed than the 1st presidency and know better the will of God.

Of course I do, dingdong. They're MORMONS!

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by exUte

If you think the gay agenda stops there, fine.

When I heard that gays don't even use Franklin-Covey for their agenda my mind was put at ease because they'll be terribly inneficient with their crappy Daytimers.