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Tex · 10-22-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by non sequitur

Not your most insightful commentary.

Turnabout is fair play.

non sequitur · 10-22-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

Via Hugh Hewitt, Article VI blog details some of the more boorish behavior described by Cali Coug as "fair play."

http://www.article6blog.com/

I have to admit that this quote made me chuckle: "Several of the sisters, especially the ones driving on their own, were crying . . . ."

These people were delayed in traffic and were subjected to loud people with signs. That's some scary shit.

Sleeping in EQ · 10-22-2008, 02:24 PM

As long as the protest doesn't overtly mock what's going on in the temple, or doesn't trespass, I think it is understandable.

In a way, Mormons actually like to be persecuted.

Brian · 10-22-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

In a way, Mormons actually like to be persecuted.

Yes, I think that's true. It's a sign that devil is really pissed. How often do we hear that the better we are, the harder the goatee'd one will try.

Good old Max Parkin opened my eyes once in an insti-fruit class at the U. Class was on Church History and the Missouri persecution was being discussed. Someone commented on how the devil made the Missourians hate the church. Max answered in a very kind, yet insightful manner of what was going on and what led to the hard feelings. The devil didn't just make them hate the church, but used offenses (real or perceived) to drive a wedge.

Tex · 10-22-2008, 02:51 PM

There's nothing that makes me feel more alive than going to General Conference and seeing giant billboards of half-aborted babies being driven around the Conference Center. Really invites the Spirit.

Yessiree, I love to be protested.

smokymountainrain · 10-22-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

As long as the protest doesn't overtly mock what's going on in the temple, or doesn't trespass, I think it is understandable.

In a way, Mormons actually like to be persecuted.

I would have to agree with this - at least in my case. I'm being serious when I say I enjoy going to GC and other events where there are protestors, etc.

It's good, solid, entertainment to watch people make fools of themselves in public.

Cali Coug · 10-22-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by non sequitur

Not your most insightful commentary.

I disagree. That is the most insightful comment he has made in months.

SeattleUte · 10-22-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

Bah, nonsense.

Cali's post was his best in ages. Don't wade into a brawl and start swinging your fists, and then start balling when your eye gets blackened. Politics is tough, mean business.

creekster · 10-22-2008, 04:32 PM

If prop 8 passes, however, I think this example of the no on prop 8 efforts will be emblematic of why. The Yes on prop 8 efforts have been very systematic and surprisingly efficient (surprising to me, anyway). They have gathered like minded persons in a coalition, have through very basic grass roots efforts obtained info about potential voters in specific precincts and are now focused on trying to get out the vote among those who suport or are likely to support the measure. It is boring, and difficult and not very showy, but it is a time-tested way to win elections. No one has been sent by the coalition to stand outside a gay marriage ceremony and wave signs and shout at the particiapnts. What would be the point? Protesting by the temple might feel good, and it is certainly easy, but in the end my guess is it is very ineffective in terms of actually winning the election.

Tex · 10-22-2008, 04:34 PM

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my guess is it is very ineffective in terms of actually winning the election.

It matches the effectiveness of the arguments of some of the "No" votes here on CG.

10-22-2008, 02:24 PM	#13
Sleeping in EQ Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The People's Republic of Monsanto Posts: 3,085	As long as the protest doesn't overtly mock what's going on in the temple, or doesn't trespass, I think it is understandable. In a way, Mormons actually like to be persecuted. __________________ "Do not despise the words of prophets, but test everything; hold fast to what is good; " 1 Thess. 5:21 (NRSV) We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

10-22-2008, 02:51 PM	#15
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	There's nothing that makes me feel more alive than going to General Conference and seeing giant billboards of half-aborted babies being driven around the Conference Center. Really invites the Spirit. Yessiree, I love to be protested. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young

10-22-2008, 04:32 PM	#19
creekster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the far corner of my mind Posts: 8,711	If prop 8 passes, however, I think this example of the no on prop 8 efforts will be emblematic of why. The Yes on prop 8 efforts have been very systematic and surprisingly efficient (surprising to me, anyway). They have gathered like minded persons in a coalition, have through very basic grass roots efforts obtained info about potential voters in specific precincts and are now focused on trying to get out the vote among those who suport or are likely to support the measure. It is boring, and difficult and not very showy, but it is a time-tested way to win elections. No one has been sent by the coalition to stand outside a gay marriage ceremony and wave signs and shout at the particiapnts. What would be the point? Protesting by the temple might feel good, and it is certainly easy, but in the end my guess is it is very ineffective in terms of actually winning the election. __________________ Sorry for th e tpyos.