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Old 10-15-2008, 03:42 PM   #1
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Default Is Stephen Hawking a prophet?

And other renowned theoretical physicists?

I like placing the transparency sheet that is original Mormonism over the transparency sheet that is theoretical physics and seeing what compares and what contrasts.

An interesting exercise is to place Mormonism, spec. D&C 88, over superstring theory or M-theory (I can't pretend to have a sophisticated understanding of it).

I've been watching some shows on the Science channel about Hawking, black holes, the big bang, string theory, etc. It's fascinating.
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And other renowned theoretical physicists?

I like placing the transparency sheet that is original Mormonism over the transparency sheet that is theoretical physics and seeing what compares and what contrasts.

An interesting exercise is to place Mormonism, spec. D&C 88, over superstring theory or M-theory (I can't pretend to have a sophisticated understanding of it).

I've been watching some shows on the Science channel about Hawking, black holes, the big bang, string theory, etc. It's fascinating.
Oh brother.

They're scientists. That's all. They'd hate you for calling them prophets.

Did Hawking say "God" is on "planet Kolob?"

I recommended a well-known book for the reading group about string theory and you said it was outdated. (You should have just reiterated the policy that all you read is books by and about Mormons.)
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actually the way Hawking frames his research sounds very much like a Mormon missionary: where did we come from, where are we, and where are we going?

Even his ideas about the big bang have been framed around the idea of whether outside intervention was necessary (i.e. God), and he even makes cracks about having been told by the Vatican that it is not correct to study the universe before the big bang, "glad they didn't know about my research at the conference, because if they did they might have locked me up like Galileo."

The origins of the universe, man, and God are inseparable.
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actually the way Hawking frames his research sounds very much like a Mormon missionary: where did we come from, where are we, and where are we going?

Even his ideas about the big bang have been framed around the idea of whether outside intervention was necessary (i.e. God), and he even makes cracks about having been told by the Vatican that it is not correct to study the universe before the big bang, "glad they didn't know about my research at the conference, because if they did they might have locked me up like Galileo."

The origins of the universe, man, and God are inseparable.
You're right. These questions are wholly original and unique preoccupations of Mormonism. Silly me. Carry on.
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You're right. These questions are wholly original and unique preoccupations of Mormonism. Silly me. Carry on.
these questions are the preoccupation of religion. That theoretical physics can tackle these questions is a relatively recent phenomenon.

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I recommended a well-known book for the reading group about string theory and you said it was outdated. (You should have just reiterated the policy that all you read is books by and about Mormons.)
You, on the other hand, fancy yourself as an expert on Mormonism but haven't read a book on the topic for 30 years.

In case you hadn't noticed, our last book was not on Mormonism (Stages of Faith by Fowler).
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That theoretical physics can tackle these questions is a relatively recent phenomenon.
Can they/are they really? Or is this a TV show gloss? Did Hawking say this all has led him to a belief in the Judeo-Christian or Islamic God?
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Can they/are they really? Or is this a TV show gloss? Did Hawking say this all has led him to a belief in the Judeo-Christian or Islamic God?
No. He said it led him to a whole and complete testimony of the prophetic call of Joseph Smith. Dumbass.
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where did we come from, where are we, and where are we going?
These are important questions in classical philosophy.
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These are important questions in classical philosophy.
These have been important questions to almost anyone with consciusness, certainly any developed civilization. Classical philosophy was the first discipline to adress them and even try to answer them like we do, even more than Judaism.
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