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Archaea · 03-29-2010, 08:35 PM

http://www.deseretnews.com/blog/19/1...ng-to-BYU.html

Four out of seven commits from ONE Utah high school?

Geeze.

MikeWaters · 03-30-2010, 03:33 AM

The same boys that came down to Texas and got their butts whooped last year.

JJS · 03-30-2010, 05:19 PM

The way I see it, at least they aren't being picked up by Utah. I see mass amounts of talent being recruited to teams in the SEC (Florida, Alabama, etc) where its impossible to think that every one of them will be starters, even though many of them would start at almost any other school. I thinks its less about having "a deep team" and more about not having to see this talent against you on an opponent's team. Maybe that is whats going on here...

Yz1 · 03-30-2010, 06:05 PM

Isn't it normal that BYU gets multiple recruits from one Utah high school every year? It seems to me in the 90s it was Orem High. Every year four or five Tigers committed to BYU.

Bingham is the top program in the state right now. No better place for BYU to get them if they are coming from Utah.

Archaea · 03-30-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Yz1

Isn't it normal that BYU gets multiple recruits from one Utah high school every year? It seems to me in the 90s it was Orem High. Every year four or five Tigers committed to BYU.

Bingham is the top program in the state right now. No better place for BYU to get them if they are coming from Utah.

I have difficulty believing any high school, let alone a Utah high school, has four top notch D1 football athletes graduating in one year. I'm prepared to be wrong, but if we wish to compete for a BCS game now and then, our athletes need to be comparable.

Find me a top ten BCS school with four athletes from a single high school who also graduated the same year.

MikeWaters · 03-30-2010, 09:37 PM

That's not the fair question. The fair question is whether there are schools that put 4 kids into Div-1A schools. There certainly are. Yes, it would be rare if 4 went to one team, but with the whole LDS thing, you are dealing with different circumstances.

Yz1 · 03-31-2010, 01:05 PM

If a kid commits, does that automatically mean that BYU has offered a scholarship?

Can't any high school player "commit" at any time to any school he wants, regardless of how much that school wants him? (Of course it seems strange that anyone would commit early to a school that isn't offering a scholarship, but, in this case, the point about the church affiliation could make a difference.)

I am wondering, because maybe we're just reading too much into the commitment.

Archaea · 03-31-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

That's not the fair question. The fair question is whether there are schools that put 4 kids into Div-1A schools. There certainly are. Yes, it would be rare if 4 went to one team, but with the whole LDS thing, you are dealing with different circumstances.

Do you believe any Utah high school produces four top quality D1 football players with said players graduating the same year?

I would imagine the top six or seven Utah high school players to be legitimate D1 players. After that I imagine they may be a lot of what we already have, good kids, who play hard but who can't run with the best of Texas, Florida, California or Ohio.

MikeWaters · 03-31-2010, 02:59 PM

I would expect a city of 2 million people to produce more than 7 Div 1 players.

Thus I would expect a state of 2+ million to produce similarly.

Archaea · 03-31-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I would expect a city of 2 million people to produce more than 7 Div 1 players.

Thus I would expect a state of 2+ million to produce similarly.

Perhaps.

And I am probably referring to not just D1, but game changers.

Dallas produces how many game changing players per year?

03-29-2010, 08:35 PM	#1
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Why does this NOT impress me? http://www.deseretnews.com/blog/19/1...ng-to-BYU.html Four out of seven commits from ONE Utah high school? Geeze. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

03-30-2010, 06:05 PM	#4
Yz1 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 217	Name changes but still the same Isn't it normal that BYU gets multiple recruits from one Utah high school every year? It seems to me in the 90s it was Orem High. Every year four or five Tigers committed to BYU. Bingham is the top program in the state right now. No better place for BYU to get them if they are coming from Utah.

03-30-2010, 03:33 AM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	The same boys that came down to Texas and got their butts whooped last year.

03-30-2010, 05:19 PM	#3
JJS Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Draper, UT Posts: 31	The way I see it, at least they aren't being picked up by Utah. I see mass amounts of talent being recruited to teams in the SEC (Florida, Alabama, etc) where its impossible to think that every one of them will be starters, even though many of them would start at almost any other school. I thinks its less about having "a deep team" and more about not having to see this talent against you on an opponent's team. Maybe that is whats going on here...

03-30-2010, 09:37 PM	#6
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	That's not the fair question. The fair question is whether there are schools that put 4 kids into Div-1A schools. There certainly are. Yes, it would be rare if 4 went to one team, but with the whole LDS thing, you are dealing with different circumstances.

03-31-2010, 01:05 PM	#7
Yz1 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 217	If a kid commits, does that automatically mean that BYU has offered a scholarship? Can't any high school player "commit" at any time to any school he wants, regardless of how much that school wants him? (Of course it seems strange that anyone would commit early to a school that isn't offering a scholarship, but, in this case, the point about the church affiliation could make a difference.) I am wondering, because maybe we're just reading too much into the commitment.

03-31-2010, 02:59 PM	#9
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I would expect a city of 2 million people to produce more than 7 Div 1 players. Thus I would expect a state of 2+ million to produce similarly.