cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board  

Go Back   cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board > non-Sports > Fitness and Wellness
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-28-2008, 09:42 PM   #41
creekster
Senior Member
 
creekster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: the far corner of my mind
Posts: 8,711
creekster is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hyrum View Post
I seem to recall this line of discussion before ... but anyway,
I am clean-shaven
I wear cotton t-shirt or maybe a polo/golf shirt, with regular shorts, while riding my bent.
You didn't ask, but I am not overweight, OK maybe 10 lbs over ideal weight.
I have more fun riding the bent than the diamond frame for exercise and just to relax ... for that reason it probably gets used 4x as much as the Trek.
The Trek is better for getting from point A to point B if I want to carry something in a backpack, like for commuting, but I'm not regularly commuting now.
The design of my bent, the CLWB, is not very good for hill climbing. So I wouldn't ride it on a very hilly route or up a mtn canyon -- at least I'd need to build my climbing muscles more. The long wheelbase models are a bit better for climbing.
I don't do any competitive or group rides.
I have never seen a bent that climbs well. ON steep hills our tandem usually only manages to pass 'bents.

Sorry about the stereotyping, and I have made the crack before, but the proportion of bent riders that are bearded and/or wear wool jerseys is remarkably high. OTOH, they are usually pretty good natured guys (is this another stereotype you don't meet?) but I mostly run into bents on group rides and I am therefore usually on a tandem and everybody is freindly to tandmes so who knows.
__________________
Sorry for th e tpyos.
creekster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 09:57 PM   #42
MikeWaters
Demiurge
 
MikeWaters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 36,365
MikeWaters is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

I like the recumbents with the aero shells and only eyes peak out.
MikeWaters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 10:46 PM   #43
FMCoug
Senior Member
 
FMCoug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kaysville, UT
Posts: 3,151
FMCoug
Default The bike shop was the best suggestion of all

Stopped by the shop Mike recommended on my way home. Salesmen was an older guy which was nice. Told him what I was wanting to do, price range, etc. and he directed me to a completely different type of bike than I had considered. It's a class called Comfort Bike and this is the one I rode / liked:

http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkM...d=08Expedition

He recommended this version due to the higher end tires and rims for the weight issue. Double walled rims and "Armadillo" tires that he says can go as high as 100 psi.


I rode this as well as a couple of mountain bikes and these are the things I liked better about it:

- Seatpost shock as well as front fork ... nice ride
- You're seated in an upright position. Most of my weight is in my gut and I tend to have lower back issues due to that so my thinking is that the typical hunched over position could cause issues with that. In a word, it was more comfortable.
- Had smooth tires already. He said they are the bike version of an all-terrain tire. Not as knobby as mountain bike tires but not totally smooth like a road bike. Which will be good for when I take it with me camping and there are rough surface roads, etc.

Anyway, interest on your thoughts on this bike and Comfort Bikes in general. They wanted $470 for it, which I see is MSRP so I'd try to talk them down and/or find it cheaper online (or another bike similar to it).

It's a good thing I sold my pickup or I might have brought it home.
__________________
Still fat ...
FMCoug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 11:04 PM   #44
creekster
Senior Member
 
creekster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: the far corner of my mind
Posts: 8,711
creekster is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FMCoug View Post
Stopped by the shop Mike recommended on my way home. Salesmen was an older guy which was nice. Told him what I was wanting to do, price range, etc. and he directed me to a completely different type of bike than I had considered. It's a class called Comfort Bike and this is the one I rode / liked:

http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkM...d=08Expedition

He recommended this version due to the higher end tires and rims for the weight issue. Double walled rims and "Armadillo" tires that he says can go as high as 100 psi.


I rode this as well as a couple of mountain bikes and these are the things I liked better about it:

- Seatpost shock as well as front fork ... nice ride
- You're seated in an upright position. Most of my weight is in my gut and I tend to have lower back issues due to that so my thinking is that the typical hunched over position could cause issues with that. In a word, it was more comfortable.
- Had smooth tires already. He said they are the bike version of an all-terrain tire. Not as knobby as mountain bike tires but not totally smooth like a road bike. Which will be good for when I take it with me camping and there are rough surface roads, etc.

Anyway, interest on your thoughts on this bike and Comfort Bikes in general. They wanted $470 for it, which I see is MSRP so I'd try to talk them down and/or find it cheaper online (or another bike similar to it).

It's a good thing I sold my pickup or I might have brought it home.

That is a nice bike, but I do not recommend it for these reasons.

First, notice how far back the seat is realtive to the pedals? This is a characterisitic of 'comfort' bikes. This means that all your weight is straight down on your butt, which means it will not be as comfortable over distance. Also, becaseu the seat is so far back, you are not able to get much power in your pedal stroke. You will ride this bike very slowly, will be unable to go off road, and will be passed by grandmas, as Mike put it.

Second, this bike is not meant for serious or even non-frivolous riding. You know how in real estate a small house is called 'cozy' to make it sound good but if you understand that you know it means it is tiny? Look at how they describe the prupose of this bike. It is for 'casual exercise.' You need ot understand that bikes are very efficient machines. They move mass very efficiently. This is why Mike sees so many fat guys riding bikes. If you only ride casually, I guaran-damn-tee you will not get enough exercise on this or any bike to lose weight (unless you also starve yourself). A decent but more agressive bike will make you ride more aggressively.

Third, those big fat cushy saddles suck over time. The foam or gelpad will compress against your butt tissue and this will pinch against your pelvis (Mike, what are those points called? I can't remember) and this leads to numbness and serious discomfort. This is exactly what I menat when i said it will feel good in the parking lot but not after an hour on the road. I, too, as a large guy, have comfort issues and my absolute favorite saddle is a brooks saddle, which is a formed slab of leather on a metal frame. It looks horribly uncomfortable but it is great once you and it are broken in.

As to the back pain, I have it too and here is how you solve it: First, do some back and abdominal exercises. Seriously, this will do more to solve the back problem than any thing else you can do. Second, lose weight, alhtough in my experiencve, doing abs and back work is more important. When I have lost weight without the exercise I still have back problems. Exercising without losing weight improves my back measurably. Doing both is the real answer. I once had so much back pain that I could not stand up straight without therapy. This lasted for about a two week period. Yet, during this, I could still ride my road bike. If a road bike fits you properly, you actually will have fewer back probelms, IMO, than if you use a comfort bike (for any ride that is more than abotu 10 minutes long).

This having been said, it you think this is a bike you will ride, then get it. Becasue exercise stuff is only good if you use it. This is a perect crusie around the RV park bike. I do not think it is a great exercise to lose weight bike.

That being said, it is a decent bike overall and would handle your wieght well, I suspect.
__________________
Sorry for th e tpyos.
creekster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 11:04 PM   #45
creekster
Senior Member
 
creekster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: the far corner of my mind
Posts: 8,711
creekster is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

One more thing: Armadillos are good tires. He steered you right on that issue.
__________________
Sorry for th e tpyos.
creekster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 11:15 PM   #46
Archaea
Assistant to the Regional Manager
 
Archaea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The Orgasmatron
Posts: 24,338
Archaea is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

A very profane thought came to mind.

However, for him, it might be appropriate, Recumbent bike.

He complained about bake pain and comfort, so I thought that might be a solution.
__________________
Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα
Archaea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 11:26 PM   #47
Runner Coug
Senior Member
 
Runner Coug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 945
Runner Coug is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archaea View Post
A very profane thought came to mind.

However, for him, it might be appropriate, Recumbent bike.

He complained about bake pain and comfort, so I thought that might be a solution.
Aren't those basically tricycles for grown ups? I think any able-bodied adult who goes the recumbent route is basically telling society that they have given up.
Runner Coug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 11:53 PM   #48
bigpiney
Senior Member
 
bigpiney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Big Pine , CA
Posts: 842
bigpiney
Send a message via AIM to bigpiney
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Runner Coug View Post
Aren't those basically tricycles for grown ups? I think any able-bodied adult who goes the recumbent route is basically telling society that they have given up.
Kind of like wearing sweatpants in public.
bigpiney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2008, 12:04 AM   #49
RC Vikings
Senior Member
 
RC Vikings's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rexburg, Idaho
Posts: 2,236
RC Vikings is on a distinguished road
Default

First comes the mirror on your helmet next is the triple chain ring and the last step before death is the recumbent.
__________________
"I always rode to my limit. If I won by three minutes, that's because I couldn't make four."

Eddy Merckx
RC Vikings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2008, 12:06 AM   #50
creekster
Senior Member
 
creekster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: the far corner of my mind
Posts: 8,711
creekster is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RC Vikings View Post
First comes the mirror on your helmet next is the triple chain ring and the last step before death is the recumbent.

All my bikes (at least the ones I still ride) are triple ringed. I do not have nor do I have plans for, a bent, but I have started to think those helmet mirrors might be pretty handy.
__________________
Sorry for th e tpyos.
creekster is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.