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Rickomatic · 12-20-2005, 03:27 PM

For some strange reason this past Sunday our priesthood discussion turned political. I was my usual sit in the back and not say any thing, but this discussion really got to me. I could not believe that so many of the quorum members really believed that this war in Iraq was part of 'God's Plan' to open the Middle East to missionary service. Am I so far out of it to think that the Iraqi war is hurting the potential for the placement of missionaries in the area?

It was also brought up that the Republican Party was the party of the church. When did the church decide to endorse one party over the other? I guess I missed that sacrament meeting.

fuegote · 12-20-2005, 03:29 PM

As far as the repubs being the party of the church....that's out right laughable (and I'm a conservative). That kind of discussion should not have occured in Elder's Quorom.

as far as opening up the Middle East. Again that's personal thoughts, not church backing.

My thoughts: as long as the Islamic Curtain controlled the Middle Eastern countries, there would be no chance in hell that the church would have missionaries there.

Set up a democracy....and you're one step closer. Just my .02.

fusnik11 · 12-20-2005, 03:31 PM

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My thoughts: as long as the Islamic Curtain controlled the Middle Eastern countries, there would be no chance in hell that the church would have missionaries there.

Set up a democracy....and you're one step closer. Just my .02.

two steps closer to having prophets shot, killed and left in the street for days.

:wink:

fuegote · 12-20-2005, 03:32 PM

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two steps closer to having prophets shot, killed and left in the street for days.

:wink:

well, there have to be white guys in suits there some how

Rickomatic · 12-20-2005, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fuegote

As far as the repubs being the party of the church....that's out right laughable (and I'm a conservative). That kind of discussion should not have occured in Elder's Quorom.

as far as opening up the Middle East. Again that's personal thoughts, not church backing.

My thoughts: as long as the Islamic Curtain controlled the Middle Eastern countries, there would be no chance in hell that the church would have missionaries there.

Set up a democracy....and you're one step closer. Just my .02.

The one thing I should note. This was in the High Priests quorum, not Elders.

fusnik11 · 12-20-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickomatic

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Originally Posted by fuegote

As far as the repubs being the party of the church....that's out right laughable (and I'm a conservative). That kind of discussion should not have occured in Elder's Quorom.

as far as opening up the Middle East. Again that's personal thoughts, not church backing.

My thoughts: as long as the Islamic Curtain controlled the Middle Eastern countries, there would be no chance in hell that the church would have missionaries there.

Set up a democracy....and you're one step closer. Just my .02.

The one thing I should note. This was in the High Priests quorum, not Elders.

can we really knock anything old balls say?

fuegote · 12-20-2005, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickomatic

The one thing I should note. This was in the High Priests quorum, not Elders.

why can't politics be left out of a church conversation. We don't allow parties to discuss politics from our churches, neither should in our classes. Wow. Sorry man.

Rickomatic · 12-20-2005, 03:49 PM

I felt like I was having one of those outer body experiences. I think my opinions are very main stream, but listening to these men really put me back. I do not believe that George W. is listening to any divine whispering. That is the prophet who does that. And just because we have a temple in Hong Kong does not make China open to us. (Again part of the conversation from Sunday)

Alkili · 12-20-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickomatic

I could not believe that so many of the quorum members really believed that this war in Iraq was part of 'God's Plan' to open the Middle East to missionary service.

They are correct, but probably not in the way they think. God uses all things as part of his plan, the wicked do his will.

myboynoah · 12-21-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickomatic

It was also brought up that the Republican Party was the party of the church. When did the church decide to endorse one party over the other? I guess I missed that sacrament meeting.

Being subjected to such is one of the prices we pay for depending on a lay ministry and opening the pulpit up to members of the congregation each week. If only this were the worst example.

It's not perfect, but the overall end product is one of which we can be proud.

12-20-2005, 03:27 PM	#1
Rickomatic Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Jordan UT Posts: 319	Priesthood Political Discussion For some strange reason this past Sunday our priesthood discussion turned political. I was my usual sit in the back and not say any thing, but this discussion really got to me. I could not believe that so many of the quorum members really believed that this war in Iraq was part of 'God's Plan' to open the Middle East to missionary service. Am I so far out of it to think that the Iraqi war is hurting the potential for the placement of missionaries in the area? It was also brought up that the Republican Party was the party of the church. When did the church decide to endorse one party over the other? I guess I missed that sacrament meeting.

12-20-2005, 03:29 PM	#2
fuegote Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 724	As far as the repubs being the party of the church....that's out right laughable (and I'm a conservative). That kind of discussion should not have occured in Elder's Quorom. as far as opening up the Middle East. Again that's personal thoughts, not church backing. My thoughts: as long as the Islamic Curtain controlled the Middle Eastern countries, there would be no chance in hell that the church would have missionaries there. Set up a democracy....and you're one step closer. Just my .02. __________________ http://www.cavaliersbrigade.com home of the greatest fans in MLS.

12-20-2005, 03:49 PM	#8
Rickomatic Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Jordan UT Posts: 319	I felt like I was having one of those outer body experiences. I think my opinions are very main stream, but listening to these men really put me back. I do not believe that George W. is listening to any divine whispering. That is the prophet who does that. And just because we have a temple in Hong Kong does not make China open to us. (Again part of the conversation from Sunday)