05-08-2008, 06:12 PM | #11 |
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I don't think Joseph's polyandry will ever be "resolved" for me.
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05-08-2008, 06:23 PM | #14 |
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Nothing introduces doubt for me quite as much as seeing how so many members act. If you know them by their fruits . . .
But then I remember that the church is the definitive mingling of idealism with realism, perfection with imperfection; furthermore, I'm no more flawless than any of the rest-- far be it for me to gripe.
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1.) Ronnie Jenkins being kicked out of BYU. I have never liked how the LDS Church is too concerned with others' perceptions. Besides that you ever imagined how good that '99 team would have been if it still had Ronnie Jenkins and John Tait (who I am convinced a big part of his decision to leave was a result of the Ronnie Jenkins fiasco)? 2.) Blacks and the priesthood. I just can't figure this one out and it will always be my principal question concerning LDS history. It doesn't seem to have benefitted anyone. It doesn't bother me as I don't get worked up about these issues and from my perspective as cumbersome and controlled by inertia as the Church is, eventually the Church came around. 3.) Polygamy/polyandry and all that crap. I can intellectually understand the good polygamy did as a form of accountability with respect to making sure a woman and her kids had some man responsible for their movement to wherever the early members of the Church were going. I can spiritually see the benefit that the challenges incident to polygamy provide in becoming more like God. So polygamy rates lower on my list of concerns than blacks and the priesthood because I can see the potential good that comes from it. I also believe the revelation was legitimate. However, celestial laws being lived by mortals often provide enormous opportunities for abuse. I don't know if the early LDS Church was no different than what I am told the modern FLDS Church is with respect to polygamy, but I am convinced that abuse occurred and I am also convinced that no man can meet the needs of 50something wives. It just boggles my mind. In the end I guess it wasn't so much polygamy as a concept bothers me as much as the concept seemed to expose the humanity of some of the early leaders that I would prefer to be oblivious to. *Edited note: The author understands that some may interpret my accountability comment as sexist. I am putting that comment in the context of the times and the flat out physically exhausting tasks neccesary when one moved from location A to location B in the mid 1800's. Perhaps polygamy under this scenario was just a glorified home teacher/elders quorum with far better fringe benefits for both the lovely daughter of God, whose man was no more with her and lets face it even the ladies like to scrog now and again, and her man to whom she has given herself. The amazing part to me is despite these enormous issues the Church continued to roll forth as that stone cut without hands. All these things stand as a testament that boobs are in!
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the priesthood ban also bugs me.
The third thing is the exclusion of women from leadership. They can have my callings.
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05-08-2008, 06:35 PM | #19 |
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It's interesting that we take such a strong stand on excluding women. They DO act with authority in the temple. And as the husband of an RS president, I know for a fact that they take their callings in leadership much more serious than many (most?) males. Even when they hate the role.
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By the way, it was nice to hear Todd Shell was at the fireside and a caring SP has helped him back. Speaking of boobs. Why advise against two earrings, but no statements about enhancing the boobs. Last edited by BYU71; 05-08-2008 at 06:48 PM. |
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