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Zulu451 · 06-11-2008, 12:15 PM

I am not a huge John McCain fan. I am an even worse Obama fan. However, being in the military I will vote for John McCain for this very little known and little talked about fact.

The NY Times printed an article that was quickly taken down and hushed by the McCain campaign for obvious reasons. McCain has a son who is a Lance Corporal in the USMC. For those that don't know ranks structure, this is a very low enlisted rank. (Not officer, no one pulled strings or such to make his life easier.) This son, has served multiple tours in Iraq, Anbar province and Falluja. No media coverage, no pomp or circumstance surrounded his service and the McCain campaign, out of safety concerns for his son and his fellow Marines have in no way attempted to make political hay out of this.

If McCain tells me that it is worth it to stay in Iraq and see this out to an acceptable outcome, even if it means me leaving my family to go to Iraq, then he is saying that it is potentially worth his son's life to reach these goals. Plain and simple. And, in the future as my boss, he knows the human price of war all too well. Something I don't think Bush appreciated when he started this whole thing, but has come to that realization since.

McCain has my vote.

marsupial · 06-11-2008, 01:10 PM

I think I will vote for McCain (even though danimal will not) because his solution to veteran's mental health issues is to put more money into veteran and military hospitals. Since danimal is a psychologist in the VA system, this will likely bode well for our family in terms of raises and job openings. Essentially, I am taking the Il Padrino approach to politics, because I otherwise think he's a schmuck. (McCain, not Il Pad.)

RedHeadGal · 06-11-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by marsupial

I think I will vote for McCain (even though danimal will not) because his solution to veteran's mental health issues is to put more money into veteran and military hospitals. Since danimal is a psychologist in the VA system, this will likely bode well for our family in terms of raises and job openings. Essentially, I am taking the Il Padrino approach to politics, because I otherwise think he's a schmuck. (McCain, not Il Pad.)

What's Obama's solution to veteran's mental health issues? Supporting veterans benefits--at least in theory--seems like a bipartisan issue.

MikeWaters · 06-11-2008, 02:42 PM

I hate to say it, but if McCain would throw his crippled wife under the bus, wouldn't surprise me if he would throw his son under the bus.

RedHeadGal · 06-11-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I hate to say it, but if McCain would throw his crippled wife under the bus, wouldn't surprise me if he would throw his son under the bus.

Ouch. I was thinking some of those things, but see, I was too nice to say them.

marsupial · 06-11-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RedHeadGal

What's Obama's solution to veteran's mental health issues? Supporting veterans benefits--at least in theory--seems like a bipartisan issue.

If I remember correctly, he'd like more money put into mental health care workers that would come into the vets homes. That could be Hillary's stance though, but as I remember hearing about it on the news, neither Hillary nor Obama were interested in extra funding for the VAs. I probably should research it more.

MikeWaters · 06-11-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by marsupial

If I remember correctly, he'd like more money put into mental health care workers that would come into the vets homes. That could be Hillary's stance though, but as I remember hearing about it on the news, neither Hillary nor Obama were interested in extra funding for the VAs. I probably should research it more.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/veterans/

Archaea · 06-11-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/veterans/

The problem we have with any politician's site, is everyone will say, "I fought for x's rights.... yada yada yada."

Bottom line, McCain is a veteran and can speak from an ethically moral standpoint, whereas Obama has no moral high ground on this issue. He's just an opportunist here, saying whatever he pleases.

venomous viper · 06-11-2008, 05:17 PM

The one thing the public can't change is the appointments of judges by the president. It scares me to death that my grand kids will be affected their entire life by those appointments. You are known by the people around you. The people Obama has as advisers, friends and wife scare me. You can't vote a bad judge out and we are stuck with them till death.

YOhio · 06-11-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I hate to say it, but if McCain would throw his crippled wife under the bus, wouldn't surprise me if he would throw his son under the bus.

I doubt you really hated to say that.

06-11-2008, 12:15 PM	#1
Zulu451 house-elf 3rd class Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 386	The reason why I will vote for McCain I am not a huge John McCain fan. I am an even worse Obama fan. However, being in the military I will vote for John McCain for this very little known and little talked about fact. The NY Times printed an article that was quickly taken down and hushed by the McCain campaign for obvious reasons. McCain has a son who is a Lance Corporal in the USMC. For those that don't know ranks structure, this is a very low enlisted rank. (Not officer, no one pulled strings or such to make his life easier.) This son, has served multiple tours in Iraq, Anbar province and Falluja. No media coverage, no pomp or circumstance surrounded his service and the McCain campaign, out of safety concerns for his son and his fellow Marines have in no way attempted to make political hay out of this. If McCain tells me that it is worth it to stay in Iraq and see this out to an acceptable outcome, even if it means me leaving my family to go to Iraq, then he is saying that it is potentially worth his son's life to reach these goals. Plain and simple. And, in the future as my boss, he knows the human price of war all too well. Something I don't think Bush appreciated when he started this whole thing, but has come to that realization since. McCain has my vote. __________________ <---- Mikewaters drives the lane...

06-11-2008, 01:10 PM	#2
marsupial Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I... Isn't it so fun to spell? Posts: 1,701	I think I will vote for McCain (even though danimal will not) because his solution to veteran's mental health issues is to put more money into veteran and military hospitals. Since danimal is a psychologist in the VA system, this will likely bode well for our family in terms of raises and job openings. Essentially, I am taking the Il Padrino approach to politics, because I otherwise think he's a schmuck. (McCain, not Il Pad.) __________________ "Mormon men are inherently sexy..." -Archaea

06-11-2008, 05:17 PM	#9
venomous viper Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cancun, AZ, TX and CA. Posts: 191	My reason for voting Mccain is simple. The one thing the public can't change is the appointments of judges by the president. It scares me to death that my grand kids will be affected their entire life by those appointments. You are known by the people around you. The people Obama has as advisers, friends and wife scare me. You can't vote a bad judge out and we are stuck with them till death.

06-11-2008, 02:42 PM	#4
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I hate to say it, but if McCain would throw his crippled wife under the bus, wouldn't surprise me if he would throw his son under the bus.