Emma didn't keep JS's male courtship pattern in check.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Flystripper

priesthood = authority

Authority exercised = power

priesthood = authority, authority exercised = power, alility to cut the

priesthood holder off=negates all power

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Flystripper

which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Women are lucky. They are restricted in what callings they can have. They get off easy. That's why for the men, it's a constant struggle to fill callings, whereas in RS they make up these ridiculous callings. "Enrichment assistant who brings the chalk to meetings".

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by non sequitur

When my ex-wife was called to be the Young Women's President, one of the first meetings she attended was one where they discussed the budgets for the Young Men and the Young Women. During the meeting, she innocently asked why the budget for the Young Men was more than double that of the Young Women, and was told that it was because the activities that the Young Men attended cost more than those of the Young Women. The men in the room seemed genuinely surprised when she wasn't satisfied with that explanation.

That's hilarious because in my experience the YW and Relief Society budgets are much larger than their YM and EQ/HP counterparts.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by non sequitur

When my ex-wife was called to be the Young Women's President, one of the first meetings she attended was one where they discussed the budgets for the Young Men and the Young Women. During the meeting, she innocently asked why the budget for the Young Men was more than double that of the Young Women, and was told that it was because the activities that the Young Men attended cost more than those of the Young Women. The men in the room seemed genuinely surprised when she wasn't satisfied with that explanation.

I don't believe you Seq. In every budget item, I've seen, the YW budget is double or triple what the YM budget was. If you're not pulling a Sooner, your ward was weird.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Do you really believe women operate in the hereafter as appendages to me, as you and other mullahs are wont to pontificate?

Not appendages to you. Appendages to the priesthood. Gratefully, that is not the same thing.

Originally Posted by Archaea

I don't. I believe the organization of the hereafter will be vastly different than it is here, in our imperfect states. I imagine women exercise similar if not identical authority in the hereafter. How it's constructed I have no idea. However, I imagine Mother in Heaven will kick our butts with bolts of lightening and thunder such that to make Zeus jealous.

Mag wohl sein. We don't know much about what life will be like in the afterlife, but I imagine there will be several things different, and the method of priesthood administration is likely one of them.

[non sequitur]

Originally Posted by Archaea

I don't believe Seq. In every budget item, I've seen, the YW budget is double or triple what the YM budget was. If you're not pulling a Sooner, your ward was weird.

I swear to God this is true. It was about 15 years ago when I was living in Boise. Perhaps things have changed since then.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by non sequitur

I swear to God this is true. It was about 15 years ago when I was living in Boise. Perhaps things have changed since then.

In seq's defense, it has always bothered me that YM can fundraise, and YW are not supposed to. It's been a while since I've read the handbook on this issue, but I remember this being the case.

I think we can do more as a priesthood body to cater to the needs of the YW. (No sex jokes, please.) I fear that many Bishops know all about the scouting program and where each of their boys is at, but may not know too much about Young Womanhood Recognition.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by non sequitur

I swear to God this is true. It was about 15 years ago when I was living in Boise. Perhaps things have changed since then.

And they were different before then.

And every single YW's president had no problem whatsoever asking for more. It is not believable any woman ever failed to ask for more money and that any man was surprised a woman asked for more money. Come on, Seq, you're too transparent on this one. Pure BS.

[non sequitur]

Originally Posted by Archaea

And they were different before then.

And every single YW's president had no problem whatsoever asking for more. It is not believable any woman ever failed to ask for more money and that any man was surprised a woman asked for more money. Come on, Seq, you're too transparent on this one. Pure BS.

You'll just have to believe that I did not consult the POMA database to get these facts. Unless my ex lied to me, it's a true story. She was told that the Young Men had an annual water ski trip they attended and some other big event that I don't remember.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by non sequitur

You'll just have to believe that I did not consult the POMA database to get these facts. Unless my ex lied to me, it's a true story. She was told that the Young Men had an annual water ski trip they attended and some other big event that I don't remember.

Well perhaps in Idaho, where the Church is not true, it may have occurred. Afterall Idaho members are not allowed to wear capris because those violate the tablet given to Ricks.