Sports and convential wisdom - cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board

Mormon Red Death · 03-31-2008, 08:20 PM

http://www.utefans.net/message.php?id=591200

The thread above got me thinking about how teams would be better if they bucked convential wisdom...

The most obvious to me is going for it on 4th down when in opposing territory where its a little to long for a FG. IMO anythiong 4th and 5 and below in this situation is an automatic go for the first.

This is the 50 - 37 yard line. on your own 40 - 50 I think it makes sense most of the time to go for it 4 and 3 and below... TMQ on espn.com always writes about this...

Another one is late in the game (last 2 minutes or so) and you are pinned in your own endzone and you are up by more than two. Instead of punting where they are sure to get the ball on your side of the 50 why not take a safety and get a free kick from the 20?

what are you ideas?

JohnnyLingo · 03-31-2008, 08:24 PM

TMQ constantly harps on the "NFL coaches punt too much" point.

He's even cited theoretical studies that show if a team never punts, it's better off in the long run, points-wise.

Surfah · 04-01-2008, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo

TMQ constantly harps on the "NFL coaches punt too much" point.

He's even cited theoretical studies that show if a team never punts, it's better off in the long run, points-wise.

I think a Stanford economics professor did the study to which you refer about not punting. I also think Bill Walsh said that the next great innovation in football will be a coach who doesn't punt.

Runner Coug · 04-01-2008, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surfah33

I think a Stanford economics professor did the study to which you refer about not punting. I also think Bill Walsh said that the next great innovation in football will be a coach who doesn't punt.

I remember seeing an ESPN feature a while back about a high school (in Alabama maybe?) that hasn't punted in two years. They've made the state tournament both years. Whether that has anything to do with not punting, or just having good players, I don't know.

03-31-2008, 08:20 PM	#1
Mormon Red Death Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Clinton Township, MI Posts: 3,126	Sports and convential wisdom http://www.utefans.net/message.php?id=591200 The thread above got me thinking about how teams would be better if they bucked convential wisdom... The most obvious to me is going for it on 4th down when in opposing territory where its a little to long for a FG. IMO anythiong 4th and 5 and below in this situation is an automatic go for the first. This is the 50 - 37 yard line. on your own 40 - 50 I think it makes sense most of the time to go for it 4 and 3 and below... TMQ on espn.com always writes about this... Another one is late in the game (last 2 minutes or so) and you are pinned in your own endzone and you are up by more than two. Instead of punting where they are sure to get the ball on your side of the 50 why not take a safety and get a free kick from the 20? what are you ideas? __________________ Its all about the suit

03-31-2008, 08:24 PM	#2
JohnnyLingo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,175	TMQ constantly harps on the "NFL coaches punt too much" point. He's even cited theoretical studies that show if a team never punts, it's better off in the long run, points-wise.