National Health Care

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by tooblue

90% ... 1 in 7 Americans do not have health insurance!

even if your number were true 86% of the country is not a relative few.

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

Its part of it.

And it's the lamest part of it at that ... The MTN is GREAT

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

Didn't you say earlier only 25% have access?

I don't think anyone can site specific true numbers but one number that keeps being quoted by the American Associtation of Doctors (or what have you) is 1 in 7.

[TripletDaddy]

With all this talk about not wanting to pay "increased taxes," can anyone share an estimate of how much the increase will be? Is this even going to be remarkable or will it be an increase of maybe $100 a year or less of taxes (indexed for income level)?

Someone here, cannot remember who, said they would prefer to skip paying the extra taxes and use that money to privately build a better future for their children. Seems like rosy rhetoric if the tax increase will have a net effect of $55 more a year out of a paycheck.

If the net effect will be substantial, then I can see the argument.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

With all this talk about not wanting to pay "increased taxes," can anyone share an estimate of how much the increase will be? Is this even going to be remarkable or will it be an increase of maybe $100 a year or less of taxes (indexed for income level)?

Someone here, cannot remember who, said they would prefer to skip paying the extra taxes and use that money to privately build a better future for their children. Seems like rosy rhetoric if the tax increase will have a net effect of $55 more a year out of a paycheck.

If the net effect will be substantial, then I can see the argument.

Obama's plan is a lot more for me, and I don't make that much.

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

With all this talk about not wanting to pay "increased taxes," can anyone share an estimate of how much the increase will be? Is this even going to be remarkable or will it be an increase of maybe $100 a year or less of taxes (indexed for income level)?

Someone here, cannot remember who, said they would prefer to skip paying the extra taxes and use that money to privately build a better future for their children. Seems like rosy rhetoric if the tax increase will have a net effect of $55 more a year out of a paycheck.

If the net effect will be substantial, then I can see the argument.

Here's some more numbers ... in the link it says 16% are uninsured.

"Why is the number of uninsured people increasing?

Millions of workers don't have the opportunity to get health coverage. A third of firms in the U.S. did not offer coverage in 2005 (4)."

http://www.nchc.org/facts/coverage.shtml

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by tooblue

I don't think anyone can site specific true numbers but one number that keeps being quoted by the American Associtation of Doctors (or what have you) is 1 in 7.

Here's some more numbers ... in the link it says 16% are uninsured.

"Why is the number of uninsured people increasing?

Millions of workers don't have the opportunity to get health coverage. A third of firms in the U.S. did not offer coverage in 2005 (4)."

http://www.nchc.org/facts/coverage.shtml

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

With all this talk about not wanting to pay "increased taxes," can anyone share an estimate of how much the increase will be? Is this even going to be remarkable or will it be an increase of maybe $100 a year or less of taxes (indexed for income level)?

Someone here, cannot remember who, said they would prefer to skip paying the extra taxes and use that money to privately build a better future for their children. Seems like rosy rhetoric if the tax increase will have a net effect of $55 more a year out of a paycheck.

If the net effect will be substantial, then I can see the argument.

Well, the deal is, we're all already paying an invisible tax of $1000 per family to cover the cost of writing off care for the uninsured.

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by tooblue

Here's some more numbers ... in the link it says 16% are uninsured.

"Why is the number of uninsured people increasing?

Millions of workers don't have the opportunity to get health coverage. A third of firms in the U.S. did not offer coverage in 2005 (4)."

http://www.nchc.org/facts/coverage.shtml

The percentage of people (workers and dependents) with employment-based health insurance has dropped from 70 percent in 1987 to 59.5 percent in 2005. This is the lowest level of employment-based insurance coverage in more than a decade (4, 5).

Wow!

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by tooblue

The percentage of people (workers and dependents) with employment-based health insurance has dropped from 70 percent in 1987 to 59.5 percent in 2005. This is the lowest level of employment-based insurance coverage in more than a decade (4, 5).

Wow!

And for those who think it's the impovrished's own fault:

Nearly 40 percent of the uninsured population reside in households that earn $50,000 or more (1). A growing number of middle-income families cannot afford health insurance payments even when coverage is offered by their employers.