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Old 01-23-2008, 06:07 AM   #1
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324666,00.html

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Old 01-23-2008, 05:47 PM   #2
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I recently watched a documentary on PBS shot in Afghanistan fairly recently that focused on women. The western journalist got to live with a family, wear a burka, etc, etc.

The show centered around a woman who worked in in the medical profession but was also trying to get married (family approval is needed). There were many, many interviews with men asking about whether women should work, be seen, etc. Almost all of them said something to the effect of, you have to understand that we are Muslim and the Koran says that women should wear a burka. The journalist always pressed and asked where in the Koran it said that. To a man, they all would then admit to not having ever read it but would explain that the Mullahs had and that this is what they taught.

They then cut to a woman who is a professor at at University in Kabul who is probably in her fifties who shows the reporter pictures of she and her friends as young women wearing blouses and slacks openly. She explained that there just weren't any restrictions like this back then. The problem, she said, is that there are now several generations with no memory of what the past was like. They think it has always been this way.

This got me to thinking that maybe the real problem in that country is illiteracy. What was it that laid the groundwork for the reformation? The advent of the printing press and the rise in literacy. Suddenly people began to realize that the faith as taught them by the church was at odds with the teachings of the bible. Is literacy at least part of the solution over there? Seems to me that people wouldn't accept the sort of thing described in your article if they could learn that things had not, in fact, always been as they now are.
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Well they should have read the 24th Surah then.

One translation holds:

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"Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them; and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do. And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands..." (Qur'an 24:30-31)
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I recently watched a documentary on PBS shot in Afghanistan fairly recently that focused on women. The western journalist got to live with a family, wear a burka, etc, etc.

The show centered around a woman who worked in in the medical profession but was also trying to get married (family approval is needed). There were many, many interviews with men asking about whether women should work, be seen, etc. Almost all of them said something to the effect of, you have to understand that we are Muslim and the Koran says that women should wear a burka. The journalist always pressed and asked where in the Koran it said that. To a man, they all would then admit to not having ever read it but would explain that the Mullahs had and that this is what they taught.

They then cut to a woman who is a professor at at University in Kabul who is probably in her fifties who shows the reporter pictures of she and her friends as young women wearing blouses and slacks openly. She explained that there just weren't any restrictions like this back then. The problem, she said, is that there are now several generations with no memory of what the past was like. They think it has always been this way.

This got me to thinking that maybe the real problem in that country is illiteracy. What was it that laid the groundwork for the reformation? The advent of the printing press and the rise in literacy. Suddenly people began to realize that the faith as taught them by the church was at odds with the teachings of the bible. Is literacy at least part of the solution over there? Seems to me that people wouldn't accept the sort of thing described in your article if they could learn that things had not, in fact, always been as they now are.
I could buy your theory until I considered the fact that JohnnyLingo is literate.
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I could buy your theory until I considered the fact that JohnnyLingo is literate.
Thats not fair. Johnny is semi-literate.
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I recently watched a documentary on PBS shot in Afghanistan fairly recently that focused on women. The western journalist got to live with a family, wear a burka, etc, etc.

The show centered around a woman who worked in in the medical profession but was also trying to get married (family approval is needed). There were many, many interviews with men asking about whether women should work, be seen, etc. Almost all of them said something to the effect of, you have to understand that we are Muslim and the Koran says that women should wear a burka. The journalist always pressed and asked where in the Koran it said that. To a man, they all would then admit to not having ever read it but would explain that the Mullahs had and that this is what they taught.

They then cut to a woman who is a professor at at University in Kabul who is probably in her fifties who shows the reporter pictures of she and her friends as young women wearing blouses and slacks openly. She explained that there just weren't any restrictions like this back then. The problem, she said, is that there are now several generations with no memory of what the past was like. They think it has always been this way.

This got me to thinking that maybe the real problem in that country is illiteracy. What was it that laid the groundwork for the reformation? The advent of the printing press and the rise in literacy. Suddenly people began to realize that the faith as taught them by the church was at odds with the teachings of the bible. Is literacy at least part of the solution over there? Seems to me that people wouldn't accept the sort of thing described in your article if they could learn that things had not, in fact, always been as they now are.
you wouldnot need to watch biased interviews with afghani women --- who are struggling to survive and arenot given a single chance to enjoy living in thier beautiful country and receiving a decent education ,yet try to observe thier beloved religion as best as they could --- to understand "hijab" concept and the philosophy behind that ..you just could look around and meet increasing number of gorgeous, well educated ladies who do choose to make hijab and ask them "WHY" .
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