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Without Pelagius's voice reason this thread would be a total goner. However, I agree with his hermeneutic in interpreting OT narratives.
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Analysis of Mark Twain has MUCH more value than dissecting Onan. Antiquity and context do not make the Onan story less stupid. Opium for the people. Marry your brother's widow as you're told, or God might kill you. Let Joseph have as many virgins as he wants, or God will destroy you, Emma. It's about powerful people controlling weak people. Even if you can stretch to find a modern day application, the story is still stupid, uninspired garbage. I have a hard time looking past what I believe to be the obvious original intent of many of these stories. I can read Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day and get much more modern day application per time invested reading. Last edited by SoonerCoug; 02-13-2008 at 06:15 AM. |
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As far as the "a loving God wouldn't toy with Abraham and have him kill his son" line of reasoning goes....
I'm amused by how mortals with limited knowledge and understanding can sit in judgement of what God would or wouldn't do in all situations because it doesn't reconcile with their own biases and ignorance. I think God is perfectly capable and justified being behind things like Abraham/Isaac, Noah, Job, the circumstances of Christ's birth, destruction of the wicked at the Second Coming, etc. and it's not due to being petty, capricious, etc. etc. etc. It's because God knows the end from the beginning and has a perfect understanding of all laws and principles that he governs by and subjects Himself to and the appropriate hierarchy of which laws and principles supercede others. It's extreme hubris to think we have a better grasp on what God is or isn't capable of or justified in doing than He does. P.S. SoonerCoug has some serious issues with his sexual preoccupations. Last edited by Indy Coug; 02-13-2008 at 01:50 PM. |
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Abraham wasn't exactly strangers with God when he got the "Isaac Directive". Abraham had communed with God for years and years, on a level that few mortals, if any, have experienced. Trying to analogize the Laffertys with Abraham/Isaac is to gloss over the huge differences between the two and how they arrived at that critical moment. |
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Don't forget the seminary teacher in Utah that killed his baby because "God told him to".
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Why be so deliberately obtuse? Just because God is capable of doing or commanding certain things to happen doesn't mean that precedent has been set for us to justifiably follow suit.
Anyone think the conception of Christ has given us the green light to impregnate betrothed virgins? Using mentally ill people as counterexamples is stupid. Some mentally ill people think God tells them to eat their own feces, or to run as a presidential candidate for Democratic Party. |
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