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View Poll Results: Who would you vote for if the election were today, sans Romney? | |||
Clinton | 1 | 2.86% | |
Edwards | 1 | 2.86% | |
Guiliani | 11 | 31.43% | |
Huckabee | 1 | 2.86% | |
McCain | 5 | 14.29% | |
Obama | 10 | 28.57% | |
Paul | 4 | 11.43% | |
Thompson | 0 | 0% | |
Other | 2 | 5.71% | |
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01-04-2008, 09:37 PM | #31 |
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You could tell her ,Technically ..ladies arenot good enough at making "huge mess" .i am certain the point would be taken handsomely well.
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01-04-2008, 09:43 PM | #32 | |
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So to the notion of W's legacy hinging on the long-term outcome of Iraq, I think that such an idea is hopeless romanticism. Once again, fast forward 10 years, Iraq now has voting and has made progress, is everyone all of a sudden going to say, "Hmmm....I guess W was a great President after all, and he wasnt a dimwit." Possible, but not likely. W's legacy is largely set in stone at this point.
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01-04-2008, 09:45 PM | #33 | |
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I doubt W will ever be judged a great president because he didn't peddle his story very well. However, history may judge him to have made some decisions which ultimately turned out better than originally feared. In some respect, W may be doing what he believes is correct despite the political damage. I don't agree with him, but if that is what he is doing, it is novel for politician.
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01-04-2008, 09:51 PM | #34 | |
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I am still cloudy on your concern about executive experience. In what scenario would Obama's "lack" of executive experience harm us, our country, etc? What is it that you are envisioning? What executive experience does Rudy have? His post 9/11 leadership was admirable. However, how much of that was his leadership and how much of that was a natural result of 9/11 solidarity, emotion, and a desire to fix New York? I mean, what did Rudy do that most other mayors, had they been mayor at the time, would not have done? The ironic thing about Rudy is that many point to his post 9/11 work as qualifying for office. Really, what he did for NYC prior to 9/11 is way more impressive. Does anyone remember Times Square, subways, cabs, and Port Authority prior to Rudy's campaign to clean up the city? I agree that Romney has a history of leading groups, fixing broken companies, creating value, etc..although when he left office in Mass, his approval ratings were not great, even in his own party. Of all the candidates running right now, none of them have much specific experience that qualifies them head and shoulders above another candidate. You could actually make an argument that your gal Hillary has the most experience running the White House.
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01-04-2008, 09:52 PM | #35 | |
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Bush is either an idiot who has no idea what he's doing or an idiot who doesn't know that he's supposed to be driven by polls.
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01-04-2008, 09:57 PM | #36 | |
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It had a tremendous bureaucracy, a crime problem for which he did a lot to clean up. He managed the 9/11 problems well as opposed to how W did it. I'm not exactly concerned with ratings as I am with demonstrable executive leadership abilities. Obama is a junior Senator. Whoop ti do. Now if Harry Reid were running, his Senate Leadership position could translate into executive experience.
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01-04-2008, 09:59 PM | #37 | |
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W is no saint. He wanted to go down in history as the guy who liberated the Middle East. He rolled the dice and crapped out. He has alienated half the country, as well as much of the Western world, and almost entirely ignored domestic issues in the process. Self belief in ones actions is admirable. It is nice to believe in what you are doing. But the more important question to ask first is whether you KNOW what you are doing. W does not. As of right now, what do historians tell us about W that popular sentiment does not? Often, they are one in the same, as in W's case.
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The military is starting to win the hearts and minds of the local populace.
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Rudy doesnt know Jack about the tricky politics of Schenectady.
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It's not the size of the constituency that matters but the fact of administering and rendering executive service over a large body that presents the possibility that person can handle the toughest job in the world.
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