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Archaea · 04-20-2010, 09:37 PM

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MikeWaters · 04-20-2010, 10:16 PM

my prediction: BYU does not go to any major conference. I hope I am wrong.

JJS · 04-21-2010, 02:03 AM

The Big 10 can go to hell. They have a lot of power right now, of course not on the football field. So what the next best thing? Lets restructure the entire landscape of college football so we no longer have to be only the 4th best conference. I hear talk of them going to 16 teams? If thats the case, I think BYU gets in one of the major conferences. The SEC would probably pillage the ACC. Only two major conferences left, the PAC-10 and the Big-XII. They would have to go to 16 teams to survive. There isn't a lot of other teams out there with media markets or facilities to compete, BYU would go. Now if the Big 10 expands by only one team, BYU will probably be shut out. If Colorado decides to stay put, then chances are the PAC-10 doesn't expand. If Colorado bolts, then they are replaced by TCU or more likely Houston (http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/spor...-bcs-candidate).

If BYU doesn't get into a big conference, and TCU or Utah is gone from the MWC. BYU football program dwindles away.

I will laugh openly if Utah stays put though. A lot of them are already in a PAC-12 state of mind, likes its a foregone conclusion.

MikeWaters · 04-21-2010, 02:11 AM

Most likely scenario is something like BYU, Boise State, TCU in a MWC/WAC thing.

That's my best guess. I don't think there is anyway a major conference will be interested in TCU or Houston.

JJS · 04-21-2010, 03:13 AM

I think most conferences want to keep the status quo. I don't know if the PAC-10 particularly wants it. I think it feels it has to. The Big-XII wants to keep it the same. The SEC definitely wants to keep it the same. The Big East would prefer survival over expansion. I can't help but feel contempt for the Big-10 over all of this. But, if Notre Dame would get a clue and join the Big-10 all should be well.

Archaea · 04-21-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JJS

I think most conferences want to keep the status quo. I don't know if the PAC-10 particularly wants it. I think it feels it has to. The Big-XII wants to keep it the same. The SEC definitely wants to keep it the same. The Big East would prefer survival over expansion. I can't help but feel contempt for the Big-10 over all of this. But, if Notre Dame would get a clue and join the Big-10 all should be well.

The keys to any puzzle are ND, Texas and maybe Mizzou.

JJS · 04-27-2010, 05:32 AM

The more I hear talk about conferences expanding to 14 or 16 teams, the less I am worried that BYU will be left behind. If the Big-10 goes to 14 the other conferences will do the same. The SEC commissioner said the conference could very well grow if others do as well. But, there aren't a lot of candidates from the midwest on. BYU will either go to an expanded Big-12 or an expanded PAC-10 just because there aren't any other options. I would hate to see conferences get this bloated though.

Archaea · 04-27-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JJS

The more I hear talk about conferences expanding to 14 or 16 teams, the less I am worried that BYU will be left behind. If the Big-10 goes to 14 the other conferences will do the same. The SEC commissioner said the conference could very well grow if others do as well. But, there aren't a lot of candidates from the midwest on. BYU will either go to an expanded Big-12 or an expanded PAC-10 just because there aren't any other options. I would hate to see conferences get this bloated though.

I would welcome me being in error and you being correct, but I don't see the reason for it.

Expansion will be about increased dollars, and none of the isolated teams really increase dollars to conferences.

Texas, ND and I suppose Mizzou increase dollars by proximity and loyalty of large metro areas as well as size of fan following.

BYU and Utah have too few television sets to make a difference. That doesn't mean if conferences were reconfigured that a Washington State or Oregon State might also be left out, but they lucked out by virtue of geographical proximity, as did Iowa State, or Kansas State.

MikeWaters · 04-27-2010, 03:55 PM

BYU and Boise State, the big boys in their own conference. Mark it down.

Archaea · 04-27-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

BYU and Boise State, the big boys in their own conference. Mark it down.

Killjoy.

04-20-2010, 09:37 PM	#1
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04-21-2010, 03:13 AM	#5
JJS Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Draper, UT Posts: 31	I think most conferences want to keep the status quo. I don't know if the PAC-10 particularly wants it. I think it feels it has to. The Big-XII wants to keep it the same. The SEC definitely wants to keep it the same. The Big East would prefer survival over expansion. I can't help but feel contempt for the Big-10 over all of this. But, if Notre Dame would get a clue and join the Big-10 all should be well. Last edited by JJS; 04-21-2010 at 05:34 AM.

04-20-2010, 10:16 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	my prediction: BYU does not go to any major conference. I hope I am wrong.

04-21-2010, 02:03 AM	#3
JJS Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Draper, UT Posts: 31	The Big 10 can go to hell. They have a lot of power right now, of course not on the football field. So what the next best thing? Lets restructure the entire landscape of college football so we no longer have to be only the 4th best conference. I hear talk of them going to 16 teams? If thats the case, I think BYU gets in one of the major conferences. The SEC would probably pillage the ACC. Only two major conferences left, the PAC-10 and the Big-XII. They would have to go to 16 teams to survive. There isn't a lot of other teams out there with media markets or facilities to compete, BYU would go. Now if the Big 10 expands by only one team, BYU will probably be shut out. If Colorado decides to stay put, then chances are the PAC-10 doesn't expand. If Colorado bolts, then they are replaced by TCU or more likely Houston (http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/spor...-bcs-candidate). If BYU doesn't get into a big conference, and TCU or Utah is gone from the MWC. BYU football program dwindles away. I will laugh openly if Utah stays put though. A lot of them are already in a PAC-12 state of mind, likes its a foregone conclusion.

04-21-2010, 02:11 AM	#4
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Most likely scenario is something like BYU, Boise State, TCU in a MWC/WAC thing. That's my best guess. I don't think there is anyway a major conference will be interested in TCU or Houston.

04-27-2010, 05:32 AM	#7
JJS Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Draper, UT Posts: 31	The more I hear talk about conferences expanding to 14 or 16 teams, the less I am worried that BYU will be left behind. If the Big-10 goes to 14 the other conferences will do the same. The SEC commissioner said the conference could very well grow if others do as well. But, there aren't a lot of candidates from the midwest on. BYU will either go to an expanded Big-12 or an expanded PAC-10 just because there aren't any other options. I would hate to see conferences get this bloated though.

04-27-2010, 03:55 PM	#9
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	BYU and Boise State, the big boys in their own conference. Mark it down.