"The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child"

[Taq Man]

Originally Posted by ERCougar

That's the problem with this debate--anyone who opposes the death penalty gets accused of defending rapists, murderers, molesters, etc.

Did you read my post? I don't think we should EVER be executing people. So yeah, I, like Jesus, can see the difference between hurting a child and hurting an adult. However, I feel comfortable leaving decisions of life and death into God's hands.

Did you miss the millstone around the neck thrown in the sea part?

That sounds like an execution to me. Just doing Gods work.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

These female teachers that have had sex with teenage boys or younger. Should they be executed?

... and people who pose inane, irrelevant questions in this thread.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Tex

... and people who pose inane, irrelevant questions in this thread.

you didn't qualify anything Tex. I don't have Cali's energy to call you out for all your crap. So I won't.

[ute4ever]

Which is worse?

(1) A child rapist spending most (if not all) of the remainder of his life in prison, where his freedom and liberties are sorely limited, where his fellow inmates will likely beat him and anally rape him on a regular basis for being a convicted child rapist, and he will have to suffer through life with the torment of a guilty mind, never again receiving a hug from a mother or friend, or enjoying a holiday, or enjoying nature....and not being able to temprarily escape from his living hell via drugs or alcohol.

(2) Being gassed, going to sleep, and being released from this life.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by ute4ever

Which is worse?

(1) A child rapist spending most (if not all) of the remainder of his life in prison, where his freedom and liberties are sorely limited, where his fellow inmates will likely beat him and anally rape him on a regular basis for being a convicted child rapist, and he will have to suffer through life with the torment of a guilty mind, never again receiving a hug from a mother or friend, or enjoying a holiday, or enjoying nature....and not being able to temprarily escape from his living hell via drugs or alcohol.

(2) Being gassed, going to sleep, and being released from this life.

The rape of prisoners is not something good people should be celebrating. You put in someone who made a mistake, and you end up with an animal released.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by Taq Man

Did you miss the millstone around the neck thrown in the sea part?

That sounds like an execution to me. Just doing Gods work.

I didn't look it up, but I don't think Jesus urged the crowd, or the romans on their behalf, to grab a child rapist, tie a millstone around his neck (which isn't really practical btw, showing the rhetorical nature of the statement) and toss him into the sea. Jesus was saying that upon judgment, they would be better off to be drowned than they would be if they had hurt a child-like believer (the reference is to Christ's followers who have become as little children, not just little children).

I understand your POV on this issue, although I don't agree with it, but your pithy use of the millstone reference to support your argument is not very useful and, given your oft-stated lack of belief, comes across as a bit hypocritical, to be honest.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

you didn't qualify anything Tex. I don't have Cali's energy to call you out for all your crap. So I won't.

You're mumbling again, Waters.

Originally Posted by ute4ever

Which is worse?

(1) A child rapist spending most (if not all) of the remainder of his life in prison, where his freedom and liberties are sorely limited, where his fellow inmates will likely beat him and anally rape him on a regular basis for being a convicted child rapist, and he will have to suffer through life with the torment of a guilty mind, never again receiving a hug from a mother or friend, or enjoying a holiday, or enjoying nature....and not being able to temprarily escape from his living hell via drugs or alcohol.

(2) Being gassed, going to sleep, and being released from this life.

I've never understood the philosophy that having one's life revoked is a lesser punishment than living, no matter how restricted or unpleasant that life may be. It makes no sense to me.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Tex

I've never understood the philosophy that having one's life revoked is a lesser punishment than living, no matter how restricted or unpleasant that life may be. It makes no sense to me.

Meaning that everytime you hear about a suicide, it is a complete shock to you?

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Meaning that everytime you hear about a suicide, it is a complete shock to you?

I'm not aware of any legally-mandated suicides, but feel free to enlighten me.

Also, please cf my previous post about your inane, irrelevant comments.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by ute4ever

Which is worse?

(1) A child rapist spending most (if not all) of the remainder of his life in prison, where his freedom and liberties are sorely limited, where his fellow inmates will likely beat him and anally rape him on a regular basis for being a convicted child rapist, and he will have to suffer through life with the torment of a guilty mind, never again receiving a hug from a mother or friend, or enjoying a holiday, or enjoying nature....and not being able to temprarily escape from his living hell via drugs or alcohol.

(2) Being gassed, going to sleep, and being released from this life.

Of the two, which is justice?

The death penalty is justice and the POS who committed the crime is given a break by not having to go through the first scenario.

Death penalty = win/win